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Hello everybody !!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous:
I stumbled on this website after doing a I-net search on Art Barker. I have to agree with everyone who has posted horror stories about the Seed. I first went in to the seed in '73 at the time they were at the old tropical race track in Miami. They closed the race track facility and I wound up at the old warehouse on state road 84.
I was only 14 when I went in and was a little guy, around 5'0" tall, I wound up being in there for 13 months on a 5 month program. While I was in there I was physically beaten and mentally tortured. The place was an absolute joke and a fraud. The sad part is that the fraud was played on our parents and we were the victims. The scars will always be there.
It took me a number of years to achieve some degree of normalcy in my life. I can remember seeing a documentary on that Straight Inc program many years ago and having nightmares for about a month afterwards. That is what I ean about the scars always being there.
I have been an attorney for about 9 years and on many occassions, on my way to the Broward Courthouse, I have drove by the andrews avenue facility, and get pissed when I see the sign. If I knew the law back then I would own Art Barker forever. Any decent lawyer would wipe that piece of crap out. He and his wife Shelly, that piece of trash Libby, John Underwood and others are lower than the slime at the bottom of a sewer.
Anyhow I am glad to see a website like this and I wish everybody that has survived the seed, straight inc or anything else like it the very best.
GregFL:
And HEllo to you as well. I am so happy to be finally meeting survivors of the Seed. The horror show that was the seed was my little private shamfull secret for years and years. I have now "outed" myself to friends and even my own children, and I feel so much better.
As for Art & Co, they know about us and in my opinion, are feeling the shame they heaped on us big time. Art has been donating money feverishly to charity and recently closed the seed.
Welcome to our forum, and if you want to remain anonymous, pick a fake name or use only your first name.
kpickle39:
Hey Mr. Anonymous - are ya coming to our conference? See http://www.trebach.org/abuse We need ya there. Glad to hear you have survived.
wesfager:
Hello anonymous,
We're having a Seed / Straight reunion on June 8 - 9 in Saint Petersburg, Fl. where Straight was founded out of the closing of The Seed-St Pete.
We are looking for attorneys to sit on a panel on Sunday June 9. We'd love to have you on that panel.
wesfager@thestraights.com
FueLaw:
Hello again :
I am the person who started this thread and I am glad to see some response. My name is Mike, I don't need to be anonomous because because I don't feel like I have anything to be ashamed off in terms of being in the Seed 28-29 years ago. Art Barker and his followers (staff members) are the scum bags , not us.
In terms of this reunion I am not sure if I could add anything to the legal panel because I have not been involved in any litigation involving these kind of issues. I practice primarily in the area of criminal law. If any of the lawyers involved with your cause have cases going on in South Florida I might be able to lend a hand.
Like everyone else who has posted on this board I have my own horror stories about my captivity in the Seed or it's predeccesors. Hopefully message boards like this one will encourage or enable people to air out their feelings and vent. In addition they may help potential future victims make more informed choices on where to send their children or where not to send them.
If I can be of any assistance e-mail be at fuelaw@aol.com
[ This Message was edited by: FueLaw on 2002-05-15 03:11 ]
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