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spots:
Dear Rick...I believe you sincerely were appalled when you discovered Tranquility Bay and then all the WWASPS history.  I am glad you became active and hope to remove this stain from our planet.  However...

It would seem your personality is not quite "up to" dealing with such a volatile matter.  From the beginning, you seemed like a naive sort of waif.  You are taking on a Giant Evil here, and you seem unable to cope even with the sometimes-profane anger of survivors and others.  The history of these survivors, whether The Seed, Straight, Provo Canyon, or WWAPSPS/TB is one of unbelievable anguish.  Letting them vent without rancor should be one of the strengths of a crusader.  If you can only respond to a simple "Fuck You" (which is about as potent as flipping the bird to a tailgating driver on the freeway), you probably do not belong in this arena.  

My suggestion is to either 1) lighten up and can the complaints to your ISP [which sounds a lot like you're running to mommy and telling her that they are saying bad things about you], or 2) stay on the sidelines and do what you can to help bring down this kind of facility.  

It's only been...what?...a couple of weeks, and you've gone from a Crusader to a Whiner (with a vengence).  One might think you were not cut out for this role.

Anonymous:
i for one like richard, and think hes doing a very active part in taking down wwasp. alot more then some people that post! melissa (no offense) but i think you jumped the gun saying he was fishy, everyone new is fishy in our minds, its all good

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-11-16 16:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

Messila, I'm a bit surprised with your attitude.
I would think you'd be grateful someone outside the 'family' was doing so much to help.

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I'm not the least bit surprised. Here's why...


--- Quote ---He may not have been inside; but he has read the accounts of those who have, and done them the honor of believing them. AND gone to some trouble and expense to bring the injustice to light.
Its not like you to be so rude to someone trying to help.
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And then immediately threatens coercion with serious consequences over a really petty slight and based on some really flimsey evidence at that. And, as it turns out, unless Melissa is a whole lot more net savvy than I thought, he's dead wrong.

But wait! Where have I lived this nightmare before? Some adult with an impressive appeal to authority makes an accusaion and starts the mob a blathering for revenge and punishment and...

Anyone else find this sort of behavior awfully familiar?

Rich, could you possibly have not realized this?

Legalizing drugs would simultaneously reduce the amount of crime and raise the quality of law enforcement. Can you conceive of any other measure that would accomplish so much to promote law and order?  
--Economist Milton Friedman
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Anonymous:
ginger, you have to remember he is new in all this. hes not used to the name calling. everybody else takes it with a grain of salt.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-11-16 17:27:00, ricktitsch wrote:

"I regret that you feel that way Ginger.  I don't like having my reputation put at issue, when there is no evidence of any wrongdoing.  I have been cooperative, on top of things, and actually I became very responsive after Melissa's second comments directed toward me.  Hey, but if you don't like me anymore, I'm glad to go away.



Rich"

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"Until you've lost your reputation,you never realize what a burden it was or what freedom really is."--MARGARET MITCHELL

Rich, you don't have a reputation to lose with these folks. I'm with a few other posters on this one. Everyone around here might seem a little paranoid and a good many of us really are at times. But look at what we're dealing with. You think anyone who's been spit up and chewed out (or is still dodging teeth and digestive fluids as we type) is going to just.... trust you cause you say you're an alright guy?

How does a snap opinion from some stranger on the net effect your reputation with anyone who matters to you? Get over yourself, please.

Remember when you were a kid? Did you ever wonder what it would be like if everyone could read everyone else's minds all the time? Well the net is like that, to some extent. Careful what you wish for, eh?

No, I don't dislike you. Remember? I knew you were an asshole the first time I said hi to you over on your forum. Now join the club and pony up your pitch to the coffee kitty. This is going to be a long strange trip.

You're more than welcome to hang out if you're going our way. But I think you'd have a whole lot more fun at it if you'd quit threatening and accusing everyone you run into. Nobody likes that shit. Most of us have had enough of it to last five psychos a lifetime.


I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

--Thomas Jefferson, 1791, in a letter to Archibald Stuart
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