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Dysfunction Junction:
All I am saying is that these DHS reports keep coming out of RCS about beatings, stolen cars, police chases and now rapes are making it to the public and when people look at the reports and see the man who started NATSAP is responsible for the problems in the reports it makes them want to avoid the "guilt by association" factor.  So they drop out of NATSAP because of this and also because of the awful problems at many NATSAP-approved facilities.  The ones who haven't yet been caught for abuse don't want to be associated with the ones who have, many of which carry the NATSAP seal of approval, so the connection is there.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---All I am saying is that these DHS reports keep coming out of RCS about beatings, stolen cars, police chases and now rapes are making it to the public and when people look at the reports and see the man who started NATSAP is responsible for the problems in the reports it makes them want to avoid the "guilt by association" factor.  So they drop out of NATSAP because of this and also because of the awful problems at many NATSAP-approved facilities.  The ones who haven't yet been caught for abuse don't want to be associated with the ones who have, many of which carry the NATSAP seal of approval, so the connection is there.
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That is much better, DJ.  You expressed an opinion and the readers can accept that, myself included.  I dont agree with all of what you said but I respect your right to your opinion.
The problem I have is when people attack a program with lies and try to present them as facts.



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Dysfunction Junction:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---This could possibly be because NATSAP was dreamed up, founded and funded by Len Buccellato of HLA/Ridge Creek "School" and he's getting a lot of bad publicity again for incidents at the private detention center RCS and that is transferring onto NATSAP.  Those programs may want to try to disassociate themselves from Len's problems and bad press.
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Yeah, it's the same opinion I had right at the beginning of this thread before Whooter derailed it.  I guess your day-long tantrum was over nothing then.  A bit of a waste of your day, no?

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---This could possibly be because NATSAP was dreamed up, founded and funded by Len Buccellato of HLA/Ridge Creek "School" and he's getting a lot of bad publicity again for incidents at the private detention center RCS and that is transferring onto NATSAP.  Those programs may want to try to disassociate themselves from Len's problems and bad press.
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Yeah, it's the same opinion I had right at the beginning of this thread before Whooter derailed it.  I guess your day-long tantrum was over nothing then.  A bit of a waste of your day, no?
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No the two posts are not the same.  The first one you tried to attack you ex-boss who fired you over lying on your employment application about not revealing your felony for selling drugs.  I think inserting your personal agenda into the conversations lowers your credibility to almost nil.  This is why I commented on your post initially.

You should try to separate out your need to get even with a man who was just doing his job.  You had a felony background of selling drugs and there is no place for you being around kids in a program.  You cant fault him for that.  Just stay with the facts within your argument and you will be okay.  Leave the personal stuff out of it.



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Dysfunction Junction:
No, they're the same.  You've conceded your hissy fit was just over nothing.  Next time you should try to exercise some self control and not spend all day running in circles only to agree with me in the end after you lose the argument.  It's hard to watch you repeat this pattern over and over.  You should try working on it and see what happens.  Bruce will be in soon to help you work on this personal development you need so badly.  Enjoy.

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