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Dysfunction Junction:
No, I never said anything like that.  

But we do agree NATSAP and Aspen are struggling and looking like they will go under given the weight of the bad press from HLA/RCS and all those DHS reports with rapes and beatings at RCS in them.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---Our researchers have noticed that a number of former NATSAP members have dropped out of the organization. They are mentioned in various documents but they don't figure when you search the database. Not that it is a problem for our research, but it is an interesting trend.

Are anyone aware of if there is some kind of split going on inside this organization?
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Which NATSAP members have dropped out?

Might this have anything to do with that Small Boarding School Association you posted about recently, Oscar? Although this latter organization would appear to be, for the most part, focused on what could legitimately be called "regular" small boarding schools, there are a fair number of behavior modification programs included in their membership list as well...

Are these places trying to muddy the picture as to what really goes on in programs?

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---Our researchers have noticed that a number of former NATSAP members have dropped out of the organization. They are mentioned in various documents but they don't figure when you search the database. Not that it is a problem for our research, but it is an interesting trend.

Are anyone aware of if there is some kind of split going on inside this organization?
--- End quote ---
Which NATSAP members have dropped out?

Might this have anything to do with that Small Boarding School Association you posted about recently, Oscar? Although this latter organization would appear to be, for the most part, focused on what could legitimately be called "regular" small boarding schools, there were a fair number of behavior modification programs listed on there as well...

Are these places trying to muddy the picture as to what really goes on in programs?
--- End quote ---

I think it would be good to give NATSAP some competition.  This may cause these organizations to start stepping up end enforcing some standards for their members to meet, even if they are minimal to start with.  Just to write a check to be a member is useless in my opinion.



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Dysfunction Junction:
So NATSAP is useless then.  They don't enforce any standards.  They're just a trade group.


--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---Our researchers have noticed that a number of former NATSAP members have dropped out of the organization. They are mentioned in various documents but they don't figure when you search the database. Not that it is a problem for our research, but it is an interesting trend.

Are anyone aware of if there is some kind of split going on inside this organization?
--- End quote ---
Which NATSAP members have dropped out?

Might this have anything to do with that Small Boarding School Association you posted about recently, Oscar? Although this latter organization would appear to be, for the most part, focused on what could legitimately be called "regular" small boarding schools, there were a fair number of behavior modification programs listed on there as well...

Are these places trying to muddy the picture as to what really goes on in programs?
--- End quote ---

I think it would be good to give NATSAP some competition.  This may cause these organizations to start stepping up end enforcing some standards for their members to meet, even if they are minimal to start with.  Just to write a check to be a member is useless in my opinion.



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Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---So NATSAP is useless then.  They don't enforce any standards.  They're just a trade group.
--- End quote ---

I would support them as an association much more so if they had some stricter standards and enforced them, but they dont appear to do that.  The requirements for membership are wide open and they dont seem to terminate memberships for falling below standards.



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