danny you display the kind of mentality I am talking about. I assume you are referring to my first post that indicated my early doubts from that you automatically assumed I walked away even though the same post indicates that I stuck around while these doubts grew and tried a second 12 step group for gay people only. I then left. Why do you care so much that some people from the internet may or may not like the 12 steps and give their opinion on it. I just dont get why this means so much to you.
Psy guys like Danny illustrate my point. This inability to deal with any criticism of "The faith" without dismissing and attacking someone is pretty cult like behavior wouldnt you say. Ive literally met scientologists who are more mellow.
You know exactly what my point illustrates Non-Stepper, that you will go to any lengths to prove a point even if it means putting your sensibility on the line.
All you have proven today is your complete nonsense, stop referring to Psy, he is not going to help you.
As I told you once before your lack of actual AA hard intellectual knowledge is baffling, in all of your posts you have written about your experiences with other AA people, what they have said, how they behaved and possibly what they are thinking.
Which I personally don't have a problem with but this is not necessarily AA. AA is reading the book, practicing the 12 steps and then moving on in life. Not hanging around in meetings trying to pick up lovers, gossiping and wondering where your going out to after the meeting. If you went to AA to fraternize then that is all well and good but don't complain if your expectations were not met. It seems since you found AA unacceptable as a functional place to socialize you want to find fault, so your trying to jump on the band wagon here with your glib comments.
Stepper most of my AA eduction took place at my home and in life. I was taught to spend my time educating myself about alcoholism and drug addiction, go to counseling and learn about myself. This is what I did, most of us did exactly this.
Where you folks are getting all this other shit is anybodies guess, your reading way to much into what Bill Wilson was writing about and you have taken the Book completely out of context.
AA is not a program that you insert, it is a philosophy/a design for living, you want to do or not. Where you are getting this cult, negative mind reform is from fears "you" have created and probably reinforced talking with folks like yourself who were confused.