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Anne Bonney:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Geesh, put the torches down, go home and have a beer or a Blunt.  A little interview from a survivor that doesnt fit the fornits mold isnt going to hurt anyone.
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No, but when it's pulled directly from an Aspen marketing site it kinda loses credibility.
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It doesnt lose credibility with anyone but you.  The child doing the interview was probably not aware that her story would be used for marketing purposes.  Programs interview a lot of kids after they leave the program.  My daughter was interviewed by SUWS over the phone after she left ASR.  Most businesses try to reach out and get a feel from their customers on how they are doing and to get a level of the water so to speak.

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Mmm hmmm......and you've heard how many of us were gung-ho supporters of our programs for a time after getting out.  Then when we realized that what we were taught did not match with reality, we woke up.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Geesh, put the torches down, go home and have a beer or a Blunt.  A little interview from a survivor that doesnt fit the fornits mold isnt going to hurt anyone.
--- End quote ---

No, but when it's pulled directly from an Aspen marketing site it kinda loses credibility.
--- End quote ---

It doesnt lose credibility with anyone but you.  The child doing the interview was probably not aware that her story would be used for marketing purposes.  Programs interview a lot of kids after they leave the program.  My daughter was interviewed by SUWS over the phone after she left ASR.  Most businesses try to reach out and get a feel from their customers on how they are doing and to get a level of the water so to speak.

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Mmm hmmm......and you've heard how many of us were gung-ho supporters of our programs for a time after getting out.  Then when we realized that what we were taught did not match with reality, we woke up.
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Anne, I do understand your need to discredit this feedback from a fellow survivor.  It seems your rule is any negative stories of programs are credible from day one but any positive stories are rejected out of hand until the person has been out of a program for 20 years or more.  This rule allows you to reject anything positive and keep your mind closed to new information.

The rest of the world does not follow your rules which is fortunate for them.



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Geesh, put the torches down, go home and have a beer or a Blunt.  A little interview from a survivor that doesnt fit the fornits mold isnt going to hurt anyone.
--- End quote ---

No, but when it's pulled directly from an Aspen marketing site it kinda loses credibility.
--- End quote ---

It doesnt lose credibility with anyone but you.  The child doing the interview was probably not aware that her story would be used for marketing purposes.  Programs interview a lot of kids after they leave the program.  My daughter was interviewed by SUWS over the phone after she left ASR.  Most businesses try to reach out and get a feel from their customers on how they are doing and to get a level of the water so to speak.

--- End quote ---


Mmm hmmm......and you've heard how many of us were gung-ho supporters of our programs for a time after getting out.  Then when we realized that what we were taught did not match with reality, we woke up.
--- End quote ---


Anne, I do understand your need to discredit this feedback from a fellow survivor.  It seems your rule is any negative stories of programs are credible from day one but any positive stories are rejected out of hand until the person has been out of a program for 20 years or more.  This rule allows you to reject anything positive and keep your mind closed to new information.

The rest of the world does not follow your rules which is fortunate for them.

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This wasn't some random story.....it was lifted directly from the Aspen site.  You don't see just a little bit of bias in that???

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---This wasn't some random story.....it was lifted directly from the Aspen site.  You don't see just a little bit of bias in that???
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Of course it is biased, Anne.  They probably have feed back which isnt so good or a kid telling them to F### off.  But they are not going to post that.  The general public knows that they are posting only the most flattering interviews.  All businesses do this and hospitals too.



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---This wasn't some random story.....it was lifted directly from the Aspen site.  You don't see just a little bit of bias in that???
--- End quote ---

Of course it is biased, Anne.  They probably have feed back which isnt so good or a kid telling them to F### off.  But they are not going to post that.  The general public knows that they are posting only the most flattering interviews.  All businesses do this and hospitals too.

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Yes, but you posted the thread without that caveat.  You posted it like it was just some random person praising the program.

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