Whooter, what is not commendable is your true intent in these conversations you have with sincere members here on this site. You, I believe get a perverse pleasure antagonizing them with your fake benign quotations. Your analogies today do no justice to the children who have suffered and are still suffering under the thumbs of programs misusing the label, "healthy treatment". You have no point at all, this has been established. Awake has presented countless articles and studies for you to comment on and you hesitate to answer. Why??? You have no answer intellectually or emotionally to come back with. "NO EXPERIENCE" professionally or personally.
Heretik, I think that you may lack the bandwidth to understand Awakes and my conversation. I have made an honest effort in answering Awakes question and I think she has responded well to my requests without resorting to attacking me. I have noticed that you struggle with conversations which involve critical thinking and as a result resort to attacking and labeling people which is apparent in this post to me.
You are a comical buffoon playing a part that comes from some disturbed latent behavior.
Here is a example of a confused inexperienced comment you constantly make; "The total use of thought control or brainwashing is not acceptable in my opinion, but some of the techniques that are used may be I really dont know".
You really do not know what you want to say, better you say nothing. (Old saying; Better a fool say nothing then speak and leave no shadow of a doubt.)
If you could step back and open your mind a little what you will see that I am saying is that submerging an individual into brainwashing or mind control (as they are defined by the use of them on POW’s in North Korea) is in my opinion abusive. Using individual techniques which were developed during this process may not necessarily be abusive whatever they are. For example Hypnosis is not abusive if the person chooses it. If a person is removed from a harmful environment then this isolation from these people would not be considered abusive either. Scare tactics is another technique that could be used and not be abusive. So just to name a few it seems clear that there is room for discussion in an area in which you have closed your mind off to (too bad for you).
Heretik if you look at your input in this thread you will notice that you have avoided any discussion and as a result of your lack of knowledge you resort to an emotional argument among other strategies to protect your closed mind. If this works for you then that is fine you can leave the discussion up to myself and Awake and at any point you feel threatened again feel free to jump in and attack me anytime you like, I can take it because I care much more for the truth than I do about what people think about me. You, Heretik, on the other hand are so narrow-minded you can see through a keyhole with both eyes.
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Whooter, I can run through at least a hundred of your posts where you give the same response, when you are confronted with your integrity within your posts. We are always attacking you as you see it. No, Whooter I or we are not attacking you, just bringing the truth to light. Your conversations have little or no constructive value in regards to the subject matter that Awake has brought fourth. They are antagonistic attempts by you to interject nonsense which demeans the experiences of survivors. Just because you come across in your written words as benign, please do not think for a second it is taken for anything more then what it is, fake.
Here is the reason you are a fake because you continue to talk as if everyone we are discussing is a adult. You refuse to address the victims for who they are children, all of your analogies are from the adult perspective. So it appears to me that some latent memory or pathology is happening here.
So please do not tell me about being closed minded, lacking in knowledge and being emotional. The first two are simply false and the last I will not make excuses for.
BTW, I don't need to add anymore comment to what Awake is posting because I concur, I have had these conversations with other survivors, psychiatrists and friends many times. I do not profess to know everything about this travesty we call the TTI and I am open minded to sincere debates.
I am sorry but your foolishness just bores me.