Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Abir" ---The target population, we target teens from north america, Lotan focuses mainly on the Israeli kids
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Yes, but... with all due respect, this doesn't answer my question; namely, from my previous post:
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--- Quote from: "Abir" ---As you know our program is much longer (38 days) and offered to teenagers at risk mainly in the US and Canada.
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I am curious as to why your targeted market is primarily the United States and Canada... and not your local Israeli "troubled youth." From your perspective, do you think that there's that much more market potential in the North American continent?
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Abir" ---We offer wilderness PROGRAMS and not THERAPY (although we have clinical psychologists on our staff)
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If you don't offer, or practice, "therapy" ... why do you have psychologists on staff? From the sound of it, they're not just there on a consulting basis. They're included among the participating staff for each of your wilderness "walks," am I correct?
Truckin':
My bad, Ursus, but like you said, it is a minor point... :)
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Abir" ---We offer wilderness PROGRAMS and not THERAPY (although we have clinical psychologists on our staff)
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Continuing a bit more along this same line of discussion, I find it most curious that — despite your above claim that you do not provide therapy — someone in your organization appears to have seen fit to tack on a link to Darckenau Israel in a Wikipedia article on Wilderness THERAPY last November 7th.*
So... which is it? "Therapy?" Or "NOT therapy?"
Moreover, even though this wiki article supposedly has nothing to do with any specific wilderness program in particular, just with the general concept of wilderness "therapy" and a brief history ... SOMEhow, SOMEone apparently believes that Darkenau Israel epitomizes the genre.
This despite never having actually practiced the art, as the commercially recognized entity of "Darckenau Israel," with behaviorally challenged kids in tow. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaking of which, aren't we coming up to the launch date for this ship's maiden voyage?
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* Interesting marketing strategy. Not sure how well it reflects on your organization though, as many, if not most, folk tend to view this type of insertion as an unwarranted piece of self-promotion or gratuitous advertising. Namely, S-P-A-M.
Ursus:
Although I had assumed that Shaul was quite entrenched in the actual launch of Darkenau Israel's first ever wilderness "walk," it turns out that said departure date has apparently been postponed to March 10th (previously scheduled for Feb.19th, if I recall correctly, although I could be wrong). See also: Darckenu Israel - Trails' schedules.
So... I'm hoping that he'll be able to check back and answer some still unanswered questions, namely:
* Why is Darkenau's target market U.S. and Canadian kids, rather than local Israeli kids?
* Why, if Darkenau Israel claims its program does not offer therapy, is it marketed as being precisely such via attempts to hijack a Wikipedia article on Wilderness THERAPY? What's with those psychologists on staff, who are accompanying the kids on their wilderness walks?
* Gatekeeper's questions, starting with what kind of guarantee do you offer regarding the children's safety?
* "Why should parents send their children to your program if it doesn't offer therapy?" and
* "Who keeps the child's passport while he/she is in your program?"
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