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Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad

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Truckin':
Was has this thread devolved into a discussion about the pros and cons of Israelis and Zionists? The guy who started the thread was just informing about his wilderness program. I'm guessing he won't want to visit this forum again !

try another castle:

--- Quote from: "Truckin'" ---Was has this thread devolved into a discussion about the pros and cons of Israelis and Zionists? The guy who started the thread was just informing about his wilderness program. I'm guessing he won't want to visit this forum again !
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lol. Actually, I posted this in the wrong thread. I meant to put it in "Israel and the weather". I was reading both of them, read seamus' response here, and thought I was still in that one.


This is what happens when I try to surf the web on a work night. zzzzzzz too tired.

I would move it, but it wouldn't make any sense there, either, since I responded to something written in here.


Anyway, don't mind me. It was an accidental high-jacking. Sry.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Truckin'" ---Was has this thread devolved into a discussion about the pros and cons of Israelis and Zionists? The guy who started the thread was just informing about his wilderness program. I'm guessing he won't want to visit this forum again !
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Ahhh... perhaps this is a minor point, but... I believe you suffer a misperception. This thread was started by Oscar.

Shaul Abir, one of the founders of Darckenu Israel, did not make his fornits debut 'till well into the third page.



Jes sayin' ...  ;)

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Abir" ---Lotan (their full name is "Derech Lotan") is a very serious and legitimate Israeli non profit organization. The main difference between them and us is that they normally run short wilderness programs (a week or so) for israeli school kids not necessarily teens at risk.
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Herein implied is a profound difference in "therapeutic" approach, dontcha think?


--- Quote from: "Abir" ---As you know our program is much longer (38 days) and offered to teenagers at risk mainly in the US and Canada.
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I am curious as to why your targeted market is primarily the United States and Canada... and not your local Israeli "troubled youth." From your perspective, do you think that there's that much more market potential in the North American continent?

Abir:
Hi all,
I will try to answer your doubts:
1. There are four main points that we differ from "Lotan Way":
    a. The length of our program, ours is 38 days, Lotan usually runs short programs ( a week or so)
    b. The target population, we target teens from north america, Lotan focuses mainly on the Israeli kids
    c. Lotan is a Non profit Organization "living" mainly from contributions and donations. We are a private organization. We have
       decided that we do not want to depend on donations.
    d. We offer wilderness PROGRAMS and not THERAPY (although we have clinical psychologists on our staff) because our overall concept
       is diffrent (as presented in our site)

Have a good weeekend.
Shaul

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