Many Many Programs Abuse Kids

[Whooter]

Well, I've watched you pretend to be other people and I have been abused in much the same way that people describe here so......yeah.

I have watched posters like yourself claim up and down that they never lied on this forum.  I have seen posters claim they never posted as someone else or guest posted.  But it turned out to be very false.

So point out where you think I lied then.

So what am I to believe when you act in the very same way as those people I just described above.  Like your own way of thinking I need to believe that you are like them right?  Is that logical to you?

Well, we're talking about me and you haven't provided any evidence whatsoever that I've lied in any way.

Well, Anne, like you yourself say:  You dont need to have any first hand knowledge that a program is abusive to call it abusive.  You just state that you see many similarities that you saw at straight and therefore that is enough for you.

I see enough similarities in you as I do in dysfunction Junction.  You both claim you never guest  posted, both claimed you never lied, both claim you never logged in under more than one user name, both claimed you never impersonated a parent, survivor etc..  You both have the same double standards and turn a blind eye to lies that anti-program people tell but find if a pro-program person does it that is unacceptable.  You are both anti-program and quickly forgive any transgressions the anti-programmers commit.

Based on your own logic  there is enough similarities to conclude that you have guest posted, had multiple usernames and impersonated several survivors and parents here on fornits.  Like yourself I dont really need any first hand knowledge to conclude this accurately, right?



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[Anne Bonney]

Well, I've watched you pretend to be other people and I have been abused in much the same way that people describe here so......yeah.

I have watched posters like yourself claim up and down that they never lied on this forum.  I have seen posters claim they never posted as someone else or guest posted.  But it turned out to be very false.

So point out where you think I lied then.

So what am I to believe when you act in the very same way as those people I just described above.  Like your own way of thinking I need to believe that you are like them right?  Is that logical to you?

Well, we're talking about me and you haven't provided any evidence whatsoever that I've lied in any way.

Well, Anne, like you yourself say:  You dont need to have any first hand knowledge that a program is abusive to call it abusive.  You just state that you see many similarities that you saw at straight and therefore that is enough for you.

I see enough similarities in you as I do in dysfunction Junction.  You both claim you never guest  posted, both claimed you never lied, both claim you never logged in under more than one user name, both claimed you never impersonated a parent, survivor etc..  You both have the same double standards and turn a blind eye to lies that anti-program people tell but find if a pro-program person does it that is unacceptable.  You are both anti-program and quickly forgive any transgressions the anti-programmers commit.

Based on your own logic  there is enough similarities to conclude that you have guest posted, had multiple usernames and impersonated several survivors and parents here on fornits.  Like yourself I dont really need any first hand knowledge to conclude this accurately, right?

So, no lies from me then....right?

[Whooter]

So, no lies from me then....right?

Look at the similarities between you and Dysfunction Junction.  Just like the similarities "you" see between straight and the programs of today.  Its a forgone conclusion that you have lied many times here on fornits, Anne, based on your own logic.  I can see this being argued against.

I have asked you for links to where you can support your claims that a program is abusive and you fall back to you similarity argument as conclusive.

So yes, based on the evidence in front of us you have lied about your time in straight and the events that have occurred there as a minimum and probably had several usernames and trolled as a guest poster.  I dont think you have written pedophile posts like DJ has but the rest I think you have based on the evidence.



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[Anne Bonney]

So, no lies from me then....right?

Look at the similarities between you and Dysfunction Junction.  Just like the similarities "you" see between straight and the programs of today.  Its a forgone conclusion that you have lied many times here on fornits, Anne, based on your own logic.  I can see this being argued against.

I have asked you for links to where you can support your claims that a program is abusive and you fall back to you similarity argument as conclusive.

So yes, based on the evidence in front of us you have lied about your time in straight and the events that have occurred there as a minimum and probably had several usernames and trolled as a guest poster.  I dont think you have written pedophile posts like DJ has but the rest I think you have based on the evidence.

So, still no lies from me then.......right?


You can spin this all you want.  I said it was easier for me to believe the abuses because I've seen it first hand.  I didn't say that everyone always told the truth.  Here, I'm asking you for a specific example of where you think I lied.  You can't provide one.

[Watchful Yeoman]

Its a forgone conclusion that you have lied many times here on fornits, Anne, based on your own logic.

Well, there's a bit of a problem with Whooter's "logic" here.  Whooter is trying to use Anne's logic to draw conclusions that Anne has "lied" about her experiences.  He's free to theorize whatever he likes, even though we all see right away he could not provide any example of Anne's alleged "lying."

However, we don't need to make logical deductions that Whooter lied here on Fornits.  All we need is his own words to prove without doubt he is a liar.  No analogies, no twisted "logic" are required.  We simply quote Whooter's own posts where he admits being a liar.

I fabricated a son

That's a pretty hefty admission there.  "I fabricated a son."  Wow.  If Whooter would fabricate his imaginary family, what else wouldn't he fabricate?  This is why Whooter has no credibility.  He already admitted he's a liar.  This is just one instance of many that have been proven.

I fabricated a son

I admit that, Anne.

And as far as "pedophile posts" go, well, Whooter is up to his neck in accusing people of being pedophiles around here as well.

Now go spend some time with your kid.  Turn off the porn and  let him have a normal childhood for a change.  If  you read to him he may forget how you abuse him.

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why are you obsessed with this JD guy?  It isnt going to help you keep your son or erase what you do to him each night.  We both know that yet you keep throwing personal attacks at other people hoping the pain will go away.

You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

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If your point is to just post laws, well, thats easy.  There are thousands of them.  I didnt see where the law you posted was written for AARC.  The one posted pertains to people like yourself who abuse their kids sexually.  At least mine has some credibility.

And speaking of "credibility" here is a list compiled by "Troll Control" of Whooter's aliases he has used to post on Fornits.

Whooter’s aliases:

RobertBruce.

RobertBruce .

RobertBruces

BEN WAjowski

Fred Bicep

Peg Sympson

John C.

Mike D.

Ursas

Slander Programs

John B.

Jim Bunson

Dot MacKinnon

Jammie Sympson (eventually it will be the whole “Sympson Family” I suppose)

Mark Rosen

Roger Glasdco

John Randall

Pete DeGroot

Mark DeGroot (I guess the “DeGroot Family” too)

Warner Stubbin

Steve Backlan

James Driding

Rob Jamison

Boarding Schools Pros and Cons (he’s the “con”)

Bess H.

Iao;nori

Jim Baylor

Sid Michaels

Fred Thompson

John McCain

Sarah Palin

Mitt Romney

Al Gore

Dick Cheney

Mike Wilson

Rudy Bentz

Heal Online

Margaret Wilson

Revenge Fantasy Girlz

Diddle

Robert Hess

Ajax13.

Tom K

Aghast.

Marion

To me, and probably all of the other readers here, it looks like Whooter has been by far the most dishonest poster.  It appears all he has left is to try to attack others because his behavior here is very, very shady to say the least.  Readers should know this context and these proven facts before rendering their judgment on Whooter's excuses for all of his dishonesty.

More on Whooter's dishonesty and aliases here and here.

[Whooter]

So, no lies from me then....right?

Look at the similarities between you and Dysfunction Junction.  Just like the similarities "you" see between straight and the programs of today.  Its a forgone conclusion that you have lied many times here on fornits, Anne, based on your own logic.  I can see this being argued against.

I have asked you for links to where you can support your claims that a program is abusive and you fall back to you similarity argument as conclusive.

So yes, based on the evidence in front of us you have lied about your time in straight and the events that have occurred there as a minimum and probably had several usernames and trolled as a guest poster.  I dont think you have written pedophile posts like DJ has but the rest I think you have based on the evidence.

So, still no lies from me then.......right?


You can spin this all you want.  I said it was easier for me to believe the abuses because I've seen it first hand.  I didn't say that everyone always told the truth.  Here, I'm asking you for a specific example of where you think I lied.  You can't provide one.

I have seen the lies here on fornits first hand, Anne, and the character of those who have lied and you fit right in with them and agree on every post.  Its not a far stretch to believe that you play the same games they do.  If you were free form lying yourself you would have come out and told posters like DJ that what he was doing was dishonest and underhanded.  But instead you defend his actions join in his games with him.  So come on, Anne, we both know that you have lied and embellished your stories and had many user names just like your other cronies.



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[Anne Bonney]

I have seen the lies here on fornits first hand, Anne, and the character of those who have lied and you fit right in with them and agree on every post.  Its not a far stretch to believe that you play the same games they do.  If you were free form lying yourself you would have come out and told posters like DJ that what he was doing was dishonest and underhanded.  But instead you defend his actions join in his games with him.  So come on, Anne, we both know that you have lied and embellished your stories and had many user names just like your other cronies.

Just as I said....still no lies from me.

[Watchful Yeoman]

Click here to see Whooter's record of lies, dishonesty and accusations of pedophilia.

I fabricated a son

Yeah, we heard.  That's what got people looking into your "record" on Fornits.

[Whooter]

Click here to see Whooter's record of lies, dishonesty and accusations of pedophilia.

I fabricated a son

Yeah, we heard.  That's what got people looking into your "record" on Fornits.

Ha,Ha,Ha  DJ, what is this your third user name here in a month?  Is it that tough for you to just be yourself and  join the conversation without having to start going undercover again?

You are so insecure, geesh, grow up.



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[Watchful Yeoman]

Click here to see Whooter's record of lies, dishonesty and accusations of pedophilia.

I fabricated a son

Yeah, we heard.  That's what got people looking into your "record" on Fornits.

I understand it must be tough on Whooter to get cornered like this and have to admit he "fabricated a son" but the conspiracy theories have gone wild now!  Almost everyone who reade here knows Whooter's lying history, but he continues to call everyone who catches him lying "DJ" or "Bruce" or "ajax" for some reason.

I fabricated a son

What else have you fabricated?

[Whooter]

Back on topic about Programs abusing kids.

Many of the posts depicting abuse may be fabricated like this one:

I was abused in a program that the poster whooter recommended to my parents.  The staff licked my bottom and forced me to perform oral sex on them my first day there.  They made me touch their dogs in places that I don’t want to talk about.  I ran away and my parents are suing the program.  I am scared for life.

How are we going to differentiate between the real instances of abuse and the ones that Dysfunction Junction/Watchful Yeoman just make up and post here to discredit the programs?


Link



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[Samara]

In this case, DJ was being satirical. You know that.

[Whooter]

In this case, DJ was being satirical. You know that.

lol, see I knew you would justify his post.  So you like that stuff hey, Samara, all the language and all?  Says a lot about you.   Now Imagine if I had written something like that.  do you think everyone would say:  "Oh that Whooter is just having fun again, he is such a kidder"  or do you think it would be viewed as a disgusting sick minded post from a program parent in need of therapy trying to discredit a poster so he can make more money...  lol.

See what I mean, Samara.  I was going to say upfront that you would support this post but wanted to give you a chance to do it yourself.

Its funny to watch how you cant see how blinded you are to your double standard.  Oh, now you will cry foul that I said bad things about you. lol



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[DannyB II]

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[Dysfunction Junction]

In this case, DJ was being satirical. You know that.

Did you click on the link, Samara?  The post doesn't exist.  Whooter made it up.  But it's nice to see that readers give the honest folk here the benefit of the doubt.

Do a search on "the staff licked my bottom" and you get two hits, both Whooter.