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Blame Game
Deborah:
***You seem to be both judge and jury when it comes to what you perceive as true.
We're all here sharing our experience and opinions... well except those who are attempting ontological coaching without permission from the other participants. I like my opinions/truth atleast as well as you like your's. Is it rare that you encounter that? Is it rare that you encounter anyone who has their own opinions/truths? I imagine what really bugs you is that I won't be silenced or be manipulated by your BS, or let some BS go by without commenting. You demonstrate BS, and I'll point it out, to the best of my ability and truth, when I'm in the mood.
***Yes, I get that you want people to believe your story, and I don't feel it's credible when it comes to wwasp.
I have absolutely no need for you to believe my story- I actually think that is an impossibility, and I'm certainly not here to convince you or anyone else. It will ring true for some, and others may remember it when they are a couple of months into a program and things aren't going as they were told they would. They'll be back here reading up to validate their hunches regarding the unbelievable things that are transpiring. Unless of course, they are good program parents and never question anything on their child's behalf.
If you've seen one program, you've seen them all, or atleast the majority. They all use the same or very similar techniques. And again, this board is not exclusively wwasp. They are not the only program scammimg parents.
Anonymous:
Wait a second here. Doesn't WWASP teach that everything is what you make it, if you have a problem it's your problem, if bad things happen to you it's your fault?
So then... with all these bad things happening to WWASP, programs closing, criminal investigations, lawsuites, bad press and all, how come they don't practice what they preach?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-07 18:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Deborah - What's with all the name-calling? You seem to be both judge and jury when it comes to what you perceive as true. Yes, I get that you want people to believe your story, and I don't feel it's credible when it comes to wwasp. There are so many things that you've shared that are very different. The bandwagon is out of tune"
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Yes, I think that is probably the best way to sum her up, "Judge and jury when it comes to what she perceives as true." :tup:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-07 20:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yes, I think that is probably the best way to sum her up, "Judge and jury when it comes to what she perceives as true." :tup: "
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Yes, :tup: ! In the more commonly accepted reality outside the RR seminars, this is what we call "self determination" or "independent assessment". We sort out our perceptions in the context of past experience, knowledge and understanding and we draw our own conclusions without any need whatever for any higher authority to tell us what we're looking at.
Sound crazy? Well, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
The weavers of linen and hempen cloth, ... may exercise their trades without paying any fine.
-- Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations (chapter X, part II) notes:
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Anonymous:
Yes, we all believe what we want to. Just like I didn't want to believe my son was smoking crack or dropping acid. Then again, if we want to find the negative, IT'S SO EASY to do. If you're happy living in the negative, then that's the first thing you will see, and the person who lives in the positive won't even see it as negative at all. Even people in the same family will see the world differently.
Just like so many MORE parents believe in WWASPS than a handful of parents that don't. My "guess" is that shows up in other areas of their lives, not just regarding WWASPS.
So you WWASPS haters, where else does the "victim" show up in your lives? Ooops, there goes my program speak!! LOL!
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