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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 12:58:13 AM »
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 01:14:11 AM »
jesus fucking Christ Danny, do you expect anyone to believe you aren't Heretikic? It is midnight in florida right now and you both can't be at work.


LAME....

Someone ban his other sock please, he's trolling people with two identities.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 11:36:57 AM »
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 01:20:27 PM »
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OK Anne, you never lied here, I am truly happy for you but this isn't just about one person

Huh???  I never said or even implied that it was.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 01:22:10 PM »
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 02:03:28 PM »
Folks ,please do my old ,tired ass a favor.GET OFF ONE ANOTHERS ASSES. please. As for the who/whooter, ugh......dont even know why you bother posting here..........YOU DIDNT SURVIVE SHIT.........and because you didnt......your opinion is at best UNQUALIFIED as far as being on this forum. ::deadhorse::
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 02:39:56 PM »
So what Danny is saying is that survivors don't lie about being abused, they lie about not being abused.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 03:14:45 PM »
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So what Danny is saying is that survivors don't lie about being abused, they lie about not being abused.


That seems to be what he is saying. I agree that abuse victims will typically downplay or minimize the actual abuse they suffered. This is for a variety of reasons like Stockholm Syndrome, guilt, trouble remembering details, fear etc etc etc. Many people just don't want to face what actually happened to them. Some will passionately deny that they suffered any abuse at all.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 03:38:49 PM »
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2010, 05:33:29 PM »
Good analogy Danny. Rape victims often don't report their assults for the same reason. I think Whooter's thinking concerning that programs are dangerous because they have no oversight, accountability, and will hire just about anyone, leads to this sort of problem more often than not. Only with proper licensure and more openness on the part of these programs will the abuse ever stem.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2010, 10:09:13 AM »
Have we gotten around to discussing why Danny is Heretik and Heretik is Danny?

I'm still curious why the Heretik account has been left open. A total fucking moron can see they are the same people.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2010, 10:23:19 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
It seems many here agree that Survivors lie.  So moving past the question of "If they lie" for a minute.  We are starting to see many people here blame the programs for their dishonest behavior which touches upon the issue of "Why the abused lie".



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Danny Benisson is not a survivor.  Nobody remembers him from the program. This thread that he most likely started is simply the action of a provocateur seeking to manufacture a "survivor" to admit to lying (and picking others who have "admitted" to lying) when no other valid examples have ever been found.  Why the abused lie, again, is a loaded question like one of Whooter's and should not be answered.  DO the abused lie is the question that should be asked, and proof should be demanded because so far all you people (program apologists) such as Heretik, his identical IP twin DannyB, and Whooter can do is manufacture evidence, quote people out of context, and make up imaginary survivor friends who will 'admit' to lying.   Among other things, i'm calling bullshit on the OP's "lied, embellished or fabricated. I have met survivors who have done one of the three if not all because they wanted there story to be heard".

Oh?  You want legitimate discussion? I'm sure you do /sarcasm.

Quote from: "Froderik"
There is no need for survivors to "embellish," the truth is bad enough as it is....and ftr, I have no respect for a survivor who makes shit up, whatever their intention.

Exactly. If anything survivors would have to tone things down to be believed.  As I understand it, Over the GW was like that in that respect.  Who the hell would exaggerate.  It's things like this which cause me to doubt Heretik was actually a survivor in a program.
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Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part Two (Why The Abused Lie)
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2010, 10:58:27 AM »
Quote from: "psy"
Danny Benisson is not a survivor.  Nobody remembers him from the program.

Just as many of us suspected.

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DO the abused lie is the question that should be asked, and proof should be demanded

 :notworthy:   I keep asking for proof of Whooter's assertion that I admitted to "embellshing" and that "Straight actually helped me".  I've never received a response, let alone any proof.

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because so far all you people (program apologists) such as Heretik, his identical IP twin DannyB,


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Quote from: "Froderik"
There is no need for survivors to "embellish," the truth is bad enough as it is.

Quote from: "psy"
Exactly. If anything survivors would have to tone things down to be believed.  As I understand it, Over the GW was like that in that respect.  Who the hell would exaggerate.  It's things like this which cause me to doubt Heretik was actually a survivor in a program.

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