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Offline Pile of Dead Kids

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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2010, 03:41:40 PM »
The difference, of course, is that at Straight they didn't throw it out.

But you knew that.
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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2010, 03:47:52 PM »
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The difference, of course, is that at Straight they didn't throw it out.

But you knew that.

One question, how do you know if they did or did not.
Pile then thinks ?????.....Oh, I read that here somewhere, so that makes it OK to repeat it.
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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2010, 04:07:59 PM »
I can see that many of you started posting very early this morning. I am already at work at the time you members post. How exactly do you do it. You must be still at home or you have bosses that don't have a constant eye on you.
Now on to the topic of the thread.
My only positive experience is my friend Johann, making it through his program in one piece. Johann was a very angry
young man when his mother sent him away, I believe he was 15yrs. and came back home at 17yrs. Yes, this is right because he finished his last year of high school with our class.
Johann seemed a bit awkward when he first got back home, like he wanted to explain something to me but could not. I found this to be true because he would often start conversations then trail off in thought and say, never mind". He appeared always preoccupied. Over the school year this seemed to pass until Johann was just like the old Johann but better. Whatever it was that was making him so angry all the time had been resolved.
There is so much more I could get into concerning Johann but I really don't believe it is my place. I feel like I would be breaking are bond we share.
Well that is all I have to share on this topic.
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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2010, 05:54:17 PM »
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My positive program experience:

The day I successfully split.


Splitting may have been my best program experience, though unsuccessful. I spent a few days as a hitchhiker/bushman, some of it was fun, but it was kind of terrifying b/c I could not go home. All of my friends had been hounded at home and work so I was just going where I could get rides to until I gave up. It wasn’t very glamorous, but it was a brief and memorable adventure before ending up at Ascent, wilderness bootcamp.  I already knew better than to fight the escorts so I was complacent. All I remember thinking was, at least I’ll get to smoke cigarettes on the way. All the students who had been to Ascent would tell tales of being able to smoke on the way, so I figured I would get to.


Well I don’t remember all the details, but soon after we left I asked if we could get some cigarettes. He told me ‘no’ because I had already been in the program and he usually only did it for those heading in for the first time.  I was pissed, but not much I could do.  I was going to do what he said either way.


Anyways, after a good 24hrs of traveling we were about half hour from Ascent and he says, this is the last place to stop for cigarettes if I want any. Of motherfuckin COURSE I want some smokes! so we get some, and let me tell you that first cigarette was amazing, unforgettable, you don't forget something like that. There may have been times where I’ve  really enjoyed one , but nothing that stands out nearly as much as in this final moment of impending doom where this little bit of relief was offered.  


So I get to smoke for a little while, we get to Ascent, first words I hear are ‘welcome to hell’ and strip search. It was pretty hellish, 6 weeks, lots of exercise and labor, I hated ‘taking a stump’ where they made you sit and keep your balance on a ‘stump’, which was really a thin stick, in the center of camp. The counselors would comment on your discomfort. I remember they would say ‘don’t fart’ b/c the stick might go up your ass. There was plenty bad about the place, 5 min to eat, sleeping shoulder to shoulder on wood floor, physical labor all day every day, made to run in boots without laces, verbal berating. I knew all this before I got there but all in all it was a vacation compared to the kind of manipulation that went on a Cedu.  At least I knew I was being berated, and I wasn’t supposed to pretend I wasn’t. I actually thought about pulling some crazy stunt to keep me at Ascent longer, and not back to Cedu, because I knew I was going to have to berate MYSELF in front of everyone else very convincingly after I got back, which I did apparently.  


The point is, the escort knew I was about to go to a rough place, and I don’t know if it was because he was feeling sympathetic or just wanted me to behave for the rest of the trip, but he offered me something he knew would mean a lot less in another situation, something I was thankful for, 30 min and a pack of smokes.  I don’t feel as grateful to him now as I was then, but that was some satisfying cig. I tell you, these are the times you don’t take what you have for granted, you suck the marrow out of life, which is just what I did with those smokes.



I don’t smoke those things anymore though…. bad for you.
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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2010, 12:53:38 PM »
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The difference, of course, is that at Straight they didn't throw it out.

But you knew that.

One question, how do you know if they did or did not.


I can tell you from personal experience that they did not throw it out.  They served it to us and if we didn't clean our plates, we got "consequences" which could range from withholding food, being beaten, having the food forced down your throat or locked up in the "time out room" for days on end and more.
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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2010, 02:48:08 PM »
Entirely correct Anne, the food served at the building was slop and if you didn't eat it there would be hell to pay. If you were lucky enough to go to a decent host-home you might eat ok at night but that was definently the exception. Almost everyone I saw at Straight lost weight on 1st phase. Some lost a tremendous amount of weight due to the poor food and consequent malnutrition. I joined the Army about a year after leaving and ate like a king compared to what I had at Straight. Even the worst food ever given to me in the Army cannot compare to the rotten chicken (complete with feathers) served at Straight inc.
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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2010, 03:11:05 PM »
By reading here we can see how programs vary greatly.  I was in the area for business and dropped in to see my daughter at ASR and they invited me to stay for dinner because she was on a restriction of some sort and wouldn’t be available until dinner which was about an hour off.  The kids were joking and calling it “mystery meat” night.  I sat in the main dining hall with all the other kids and my daughter and two kids in her peer group sat at my table.  They serve meals to accommodate Vegan and vegetarians which I was not aware of.  The “Mystery meat” was like a meat loaf but it really wasn’t that bad and I am very picky, with real mashed potatoes and fresh beans and choice of 3 different beverages.  We all had to take out trays, clean our plates and put them in the racks (a certain way) to be cleaned.  They had pizza night and movie night in the big hall during the week also.

Most of the kids gained weight while staying there even though they were kept very active.  This is why I think it is important to listen to everyone’s experiences and stories and not judge the entire industry on just your personal experience.



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Re: Post your positive program experiences
« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2010, 03:54:07 PM »
I lived on PB&J (sometimes no J) for 4 months.Once in a while we would get a couple of hot dogs at the oldcommers house
I would spend my days in group fantasizing about food. I would have eaten another PB&J if I could have. It's a wonder that I was able to memorize thier bullshit enough to eventually make it home. And when I did I gorged myself on anything and everything. Hell, even the food in jail was 5 star compared to the seed.
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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2010, 04:04:07 PM »
We should do lunch. Chineese maybe?
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« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2010, 04:08:40 PM »
Guys I'm sorry to hear this, we ate like king and queens at Elan. I should know from 10/75 till 10/76 I delivered the food to all the houses, with the exception of Elan 4 where old farmer, Ken Day would in his little red Subaru.
Joe, was a fanatic about feeding his kids, "as he would say". Strange man, he could giveth and taketh at the same moment.
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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2010, 08:03:05 AM »
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« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2010, 09:56:48 AM »
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