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[Joel]

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

[Che Gookin]

First, in order to make "changes" one would have to be truly sincere in making said, "changes". I don't want to "change" Calo, I want the place out of business and Ken Huey sued into oblivion.  I have no desire to add to the special blend of Ken Huey sickness at CALO. Unlike you, an uninformed dolt who has yet to speak to a single CALO survivor, I have spoken to several. I've spoken to several ex-staff members as well. They all reinforce the impression that CALO is a sick sick place that manipulates parents to keep the dollars rolling in.

That's why I couldn't give a rat's ass what someone like Tiger's eye has to say, she's an manipulated parent. One day the veil will be lifted from her eyes. It tends to happen sooner or later. It happened with Karen in Dallas, one of the forum's old school proprogram supporters. Now Karen is as anti-program as it gets. Good for her for seeing the truth.

And no, I would never partake in an open discussion on a forum to help a place make "changes" for the very obvious reason that said discussion would turn into a flamewar of the highest order. The two times I participated in a discussion between myself and current program staff to make changes took place in private. The first discussion was on how to reduce the number of violent restraints and the second situation will remain private at the request of the youth involved.

I find your assertion that I'm trying to slip back in amusing. I had several chances to slip back in. I've never once taken any of them. That sick business is dead to me and there is no joy or rewards to be reaped in that disgusting line of work.

Props to you for accomplishing so much in life, however, I find more ironic that a so called knowledgeable person as yourself can ignore so much of your own personal experience with programs to go out and defend some of the sickest of the sick. Enjoy your twisted bizarre little games, I hope it gets you that erection you are looking for, though protip: viagra would save you a lot of time and effort.

[DannyB II]

First, in order to make "changes" one would have to be truly sincere in making said, "changes". I don't want to "change" Calo, I want the place out of business and Ken Huey sued into oblivion.  I have no desire to add to the special blend of Ken Huey sickness at CALO. Unlike you, an uninformed dolt who has yet to speak to a single CALO survivor, I have spoken to several. I've spoken to several ex-staff members as well. They all reinforce the impression that CALO is a sick sick place that manipulates parents to keep the dollars rolling in.

That's why I couldn't give a rat's ass what someone like Tiger's eye has to say, she's an manipulated parent. One day the veil will be lifted from her eyes. It tends to happen sooner or later. It happened with Karen in Dallas, one of the forum's old school proprogram supporters. Now Karen is as anti-program as it gets. Good for her for seeing the truth.

And no, I would never partake in an open discussion on a forum to help a place make "changes" for the very obvious reason that said discussion would turn into a flamewar of the highest order. The two times I participated in a discussion between myself and current program staff to make changes took place in private. The first discussion was on how to reduce the number of violent restraints and the second situation will remain private at the request of the youth involved.

I find your assertion that I'm trying to slip back in amusing. I had several chances to slip back in. I've never once taken any of them. That sick business is dead to me and there is no joy or rewards to be reaped in that disgusting line of work.

Props to you for accomplishing so much in life, however, I find more ironic that a so called knowledgeable person as yourself can ignore so much of your own personal experience with programs to go out and defend some of the sickest of the sick. Enjoy your twisted bizarre little games, I hope it gets you that erection you are looking for, though protip: viagra would save you a lot of time and effort.

This is not a game my friend and it has never been. Before I go any further, let me point out one thing here. This post you just posted is the most comprehensive thought out post I've seen from you since I've been here. I have gone back years reading posts and most of your posts are short brazen attacks against other posters or just some sarcastic remark.
SInce I have both of your attention, Joel don't throw the angry, abusive and attacking shit on me, you do the same thing but in your way. It still accomplishes the same results.
Che I have always respected you up until a couple of months ago when you decided I was not worth respecting any longer. Well I am sorry you can not except my opinions, thoughts and wishes on this Web Site. I do not wish programs go away, there are plenty of good programs doing wonderful things with kids. This is where we are at in are society right now and I am comfortable with that. Thank god kids can get help for the multiple conditions they have.
I do not like abusive, controlling, mind altering, coercive, threatening, violent and damaging programs. If Ken Huey is this type of person, who enjoys inflicting pain purposely on children both mentally and physically with no concern for increasing their lively hood, well then we have a big problem in this country. Why are we not protesting this program right now, why are the cops not knocking down the doors, like they did in Empire,Alabama.
Now I am not the best collector of thoughts nor am I a great writer (nor want to be)but I think you can assimilate what I am saying here.

[Che Gookin]

There is no we in this paradigm. The majority of my anti-program activities take place off of fornits with people who I trust and find reliable. There is a network, a very informal network of us, who act together when we can. You on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use.

Troll you are and troll you'll remain until such a time that you decide otherwise.

Until then, fuck you danny.

[DannyB II]

There is no we in this paradigm. The majority of my anti-program activities take place off of fornits with people who I trust and find reliable. There is a network, a very informal network of us, who act together when we can. You on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use.

Troll you are and troll you'll remain until such a time that you decide otherwise.

Until then, fuck you danny.

Che words, are very similar to Psy, Antigens, DJ, Joels, Pauls, Inculcated, Ursus, and others. "Their is this informal (now it is informal) network who act together, when we can. "When we can".  Like these children being abused in programs can wait around till your 'informal group' can get its act together for another meeting/protest..ect....
Great so there really is not any sense of urgency here, Che. This is just more or less a "book club" and folks like yourself get together when ya can.
Man, I'm so happy we got that out in the open, now. Because from the looks of some of your posts, especially what you had to say about Ken Huey, one would think you would have been in constant state of "acting together".
Che, as you were saying above, "you on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use"...... :rofl:
Jesus, Che, at the rate your group moves my great, great grandchildren will not be of any use either. I am so sorry that you felt upon me coming to fornits that I was in need of a education concerning my time at Elan.
I had already had my education and I'm very proud of my teachers, they kept my head clear. I hope that I may never be of use to you, especially in the state you are in. Your a man with much discerning still to do.
Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

[Che Gookin]

There is no we in this paradigm. The majority of my anti-program activities take place off of fornits with people who I trust and find reliable. There is a network, a very informal network of us, who act together when we can. You on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use.

Troll you are and troll you'll remain until such a time that you decide otherwise.

Until then, fuck you danny.

Che words, are very similar to Psy, Antigens, DJ, Joels, Pauls, Inculcated, Ursus, and others. "Their is this informal (now it is informal) network who act together, when we can. "When we can".  Like these children being abused in programs can wait around till your 'informal group' can get its act together for another meeting/protest..ect....
Great so there really is not any sense of urgency here, Che. This is just more or less a "book club" and folks like yourself get together when ya can.
Man, I'm so happy we got that out in the open, now. Because from the looks of some of your posts, especially what you had to say about Ken Huey, one would think you would have been in constant state of "acting together".
Che, as you were saying above, "you on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use"...... :rofl:
Jesus, Che, at the rate your group moves my great, great grandchildren will not be of any use either. I am so sorry that you felt upon me coming to fornits that I was in need of a education concerning my time at Elan.
I had already had my education and I'm very proud of my teachers, they kept my head clear. I hope that I may never be of use to you, especially in the state you are in. Your a man with much discerning still to do.
Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

Again, as per your usual flair for producing absolutely nothing of significance, you've lived up to your previous expectations.

I'll keep it simple and short.

fuck you danny.

Because really that is all a raving twat like you is worth, a simple, yet very concise, fuck you danny.

[DannyB II]

There is no we in this paradigm. The majority of my anti-program activities take place off of fornits with people who I trust and find reliable. There is a network, a very informal network of us, who act together when we can. You on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use.

Troll you are and troll you'll remain until such a time that you decide otherwise.

Until then, fuck you danny.

Che words, are very similar to Psy, Antigens, DJ, Joels, Pauls, Inculcated, Ursus, and others. "Their is this informal (now it is informal) network who act together, when we can. "When we can".  Like these children being abused in programs can wait around till your 'informal group' can get its act together for another meeting/protest..ect....
Great so there really is not any sense of urgency here, Che. This is just more or less a "book club" and folks like yourself get together when ya can.
Man, I'm so happy we got that out in the open, now. Because from the looks of some of your posts, especially what you had to say about Ken Huey, one would think you would have been in constant state of "acting together".
Che, as you were saying above, "you on the other hand haven't made that bit of growth of the mind and spirit to demonstrate the sort of utility needed to be of use"...... :rofl:
Jesus, Che, at the rate your group moves my great, great grandchildren will not be of any use either. I am so sorry that you felt upon me coming to fornits that I was in need of a education concerning my time at Elan.
I had already had my education and I'm very proud of my teachers, they kept my head clear. I hope that I may never be of use to you, especially in the state you are in. Your a man with much discerning still to do.
Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

Again, as per your usual flair for producing absolutely nothing of significance, you've lived up to your previous expectations.

I'll keep it simple and short.

fuck you danny.

Because really that is all a raving twat like you is worth, a simple, yet very concise, fuck you danny.

I am so sorry to see you have to resort to such language with me, I was just pointing out some of your short coming. I mean you have no problem doing the same to others (me). You don't see me reacting with such aggression.
You and your cronies don't have a problem using a plausible argument using false or invalid inferences. So please, pardon me for extending my gratitude.

Love ya, CHE...call me when ya get State side.

[Che Gookin]

Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

Danny,

Picking up male prostitutes on OBT doesn't constitute as any sort of education I'd like to take part in, that is all your bag. As long as "we" share this planet you can be sure the paradigm is heavily skewed towards "me" staying as far away from someone like "you" as possible. "I" simply don't think "I" could take all the excitement of your meandering legal threats, physical threats to beat me or kill me as evidenced from other various sources, and nonsensical "AA" gibberish.

[RobertBruce]

Why are you making threats towards people Danny?

[DannyB II]

Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

Danny,

Picking up male prostitutes on OBT doesn't constitute as any sort of education I'd like to take part in, that is all your bag. As long as "we" share this planet you can be sure the paradigm is heavily skewed towards "me" staying as far away from someone like "you" as possible. "I" simply don't think "I" could take all the excitement of your meandering legal threats, physical threats to beat me or kill me as evidenced from other various sources, and nonsensical "AA" gibberish.

Ya know Che, just once I wish you could act your age and have a mature conversation. Where I can a least understand some part of your comment but no that would be asking to much.
Che, still wants to be in high school where attacking anothers character and calling them names is considered a stepping stone to god knows where.
take care

[Che Gookin]

Get back stateside and maybe will really talk unless we kill each other first...

P.S. "There is no we in this paradigm".
Dude so long as "we" live on this planet together, there is a "we" in this paradigm. Whether "we" like it or not.

Danny,

Picking up male prostitutes on OBT doesn't constitute as any sort of education I'd like to take part in, that is all your bag. As long as "we" share this planet you can be sure the paradigm is heavily skewed towards "me" staying as far away from someone like "you" as possible. "I" simply don't think "I" could take all the excitement of your meandering legal threats, physical threats to beat me or kill me as evidenced from other various sources, and nonsensical "AA" gibberish.

Ya know Che, just once I wish you could act your age and have a mature conversation. Where I can a least understand some part of your comment but no that would be asking to much.
Che, still wants to be in high school where attacking anothers character and calling them names is considered a stepping stone to god knows where.
take care

I'm following your lead danny. You've done this same sort of thing on numerous occasions. You should answer Robert's question before we continue our discussion. I think we'd all like to know what has made you into such an internet bad ass.  As you are a person, who despite all his fronting, who has yet to take to the streets in person to do something about the problem.

[DannyB II]

Che, on this thread were done.

[Che Gookin]

You'll be back, you always are. You are like herpes, just not the fun kind.

Hurry on back anal wart, we all want to know why you've been threatening people with your lawyers, we want to know more about these allegation of you rolling down OBT at thee in the morning picking up male prostitutes, and we want to know why you've been threatening some of the women on this forum.

All valid questions danny.

And btw.. you are not excused until I say, "fuck you danny."

Now you are excused anal wart.

[try another castle]

tl;dr

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Content:
10/10

Timing:
10/10

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[DannyB II]

Why are you making threats towards people Danny?

Please have example, posts, citation, proof, quote, case file, documentary, 30 second clip, 60 mins. expose, O'reily factor "no spin zone" piece, "Meet the Press" snippet, BaBa WaWa special, "The Veiw" guest shot, Dr. Phil rerun and last but not least "Oprah" appearance in "O" report.
We have to have proof of action, "Brufus the Dufus".