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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?
Troll Control:
Pure, unadulterated bologna. You got pinched. Took you a long time to slip up again since the "fiduciary duty" admission. Yeah, maybe once is a mistake, but twice is a pattern...
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Kids with severe problems will not do well in these programs and will probably be released.
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Why would they be accepted in the first place? Just to collect a few checks until they become a handful? Why no screening of placements?
Also, Ms. Behrens released them from her data sample as well in order to scrub the results clean. Not exactly the way scientists behave, eh? No wonder this work was never reviewed or published.
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You raise a good question. They lose money on the kids they place and then end up leaving. When a kid enters a program they budget and project earnings based on a 12 to 16 month stay and if the kid leaves then they realize a financial loss.
They screen the kids the best they can. My daughter was required to be tested prior to acceptance and sometimes they just mis diagnose kids. The kid enters the program and just doesn't fit in. Instead of keeping the kid on and collecting money from the parents they release him back. Its the right thing to do in my opinion.
I think the study clearly spelled out the areas that didn't include these kids in the data set. The reason they note it is so people can understand the population which was studied. If they included the kids that were released then that would be noted also. You need to read the tables carefully to understand which kids were included.
I think we can all agree, from a business standpoint, that if a program can improve on their acceptance criteria and reduce their rejection rate well below 8% they would be more efficient as a program.
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Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
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Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
Also keep in mind there has never been any follow up to determine if any of these results were lasting. Previous research has shown severe degradation of results beginning immediately after discharge.
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Alvasin:
What they actually get from here that have to considered.Kids with severe problems will not do well in these programs and will probably be released.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Alvasin" ---What they actually get from here that have to considered.Kids with severe problems will not do well in these programs and will probably be released.
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Being released is not good for the schools success rate. That is why the schools are getting more and more picky on who they accept into the program. The better schools chose kids which they feel will succeed, move on to college etc. Most schools dont want to take kids who are violent, low IQ, or have mental disorders because that will hurt their success rate and loser their chances of attracting the more affluent families who pay out of pocket with kids who have a higher chance of succeeding.
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