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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
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Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
Also keep in mind there has never been any follow up to determine if any of these results were lasting. Previous research has shown severe degradation of results beginning immediately after discharge.
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Wow....so kids that truly needed help, not quack "therapy", didn't fare so well. Hmmmm. And why send a kid away if they're not in real trouble? Why were these kids that "had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a mood disorder," even there in the first place? Parents....do your damn job and quit farming it out to strangers!
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Yes, plus these strangers keep getting charged with child abuse and shut down. There has never been any follow up either.
Whooter:
lol, this study really gets to you. I am the only one supporting my posts with links.
Here lets take another look:
Combining these criteria, 78% of adolescent females
reported a change in symptoms that was consistent with recovery and reliable change.
The majority of male adolescents (66%) reported symptoms at
discharge that qualified them as “recovered” because their scores exceeded the cut-off score (raw
score 44). In other words, by the point of discharge the majority of males reported symptoms that
were more comparable to the normal population than to the clinical population.
So we can see 66 -78% success by this measurement alone.
I see this as consistent with the 60-80% success rates of Residential Treatments in previous studies.
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Whooter:
The majority (89%) reported symptoms at discharge that
qualify them as “recovered”, because scores exceeded the cut-off score (raw score 45). Eightynine
percent of male adolescents exceeded cut-off scores on both measures of clinical
significance suggesting that the reported change in symptoms was both of sufficient quantity and
quality that it is considered clinically meaningful.
Furthermore, 89% of the parents of female adolescents reported
discharge symptoms that qualify as “recovered” because scores exceed the cut-off score (raw
score 45). Combining the criteria, 89% of parents of adolescent females reported a change in
symptoms that was suggestive of recovery and reliable change.
wow!! 89%
Where is the link? Oh No!!! lol
Here it is:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Troll Control:
:feedtrolls: :spam: :roflmao:
If all you can do is make up "data" and spam-troll you've got problems. Where have we seen this before?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---:feedtrolls: :spam: :roflmao:
If all you can do is make up "data" and spam-troll you've got problems. Where have we seen this before?
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Ha,Ha,Ha I supplied a link with each post... read 'em and weep.
I think you should go back to the abuse angle, DJ, the study facts wont change.
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