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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?

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Whooter:

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.
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I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.
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But they do respond to responsible parenting.  Which was my original point, which you ignored.  Shocking!  ::)
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Not all kids do, Anne, some kids need help outside the home and others need help outside the scope of local services.  

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And those are the ones who need TRUE help.....not quackery from pseudo-"scientists" or pseudo-"therapists".
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Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".

Do you see what I mean?



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".
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You are really getting tiresome.  Get some new material.


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No

Whooter:
Back on topic:


Along with the 60-80% success rate:


The majority of adolescents were treated for multiple problems (85.5%). The most frequent treatment foci were disruptive
behavior disorders (44%), substance use disorders (36%), and mood disorder (31%) (percentages
did not total 100% because participants could have more than one problem).

So 85.5% of the kids were there for multiple reasons and 8% of the kids the program felt would not be successful and they were discharged early.



Residential Treatment Outcome-Study



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Dysfunction Junction:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".
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You are really getting tiresome.  Get some new material.


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No
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Me neither.  It's a wearisome game.  Hopefully it will all be over very soon.

Whooter:

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Me neither.  It's a wearisome game.  Hopefully it will all be over very soon.
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If you both focus and try to stay on topic it will not be as confusing, it is not that difficult.  You guys do this to yourselves.



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