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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?

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Anne Bonney:

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Then why are they there in the first place?  Why are parents outsourcing their jobs?
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Parents sometimes have to outsource their jobs, Anne, if they cannot be solved in the home setting.
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Then they're doing a piss-poor, shitty job as parents and the kids have to suffer for that.  Unconscionable.
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Depends on your perspective, Anne, some people would think that the parents who do not get outside help for their child are doing a piss-poor job and they are making their kids suffer.

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.

Whooter:

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.
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I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.  I think the parents would be negligent if they just gave up on them and said "Oh Well local service didnt work lets hope for the best".  There are many parents who care enough for their children to look outside their local areas for a solution until they find one.  Not all parents give up.



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Anne Bonney:

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.
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I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.
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But they do respond to responsible parenting.  Which was my original point, which you ignored.  Shocking!  ::)

Whooter:

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.
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I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.
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But they do respond to responsible parenting.  Which was my original point, which you ignored.  Shocking!  ::)
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Not all kids do, Anne, some kids need help outside the home and others need help outside the scope of local services.  



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Anne Bonney:

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The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.
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I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.
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But they do respond to responsible parenting.  Which was my original point, which you ignored.  Shocking!  ::)
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Not all kids do, Anne, some kids need help outside the home and others need help outside the scope of local services.  

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And those are the ones who need TRUE help.....not quackery from pseudo-"scientists" or pseudo-"therapists".

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