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Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---If you want to call feedback from a 1,000 fellow survivors (Freudian slip) useless (not 6 or 7 opinions from fornits), rather a 1,000 kids. No matter how hard you try you cannot silence their voices. They have a right to be heard.
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Yes, they do and so do we. But you give so much credibility to them filing out an exit survey, which is nothing more than anecdotal stories, but you give zero credibility to us when do the same. AND....we provide you with true clinical studies and you refuse to accept them.
--- Quote --- Here take a look at what they said:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Yes, that's an exit survey with zero follow up. How does that even remotely qualify as "proof"? I remember after "graduating" Straight, I was asked by the 'exit staff' about my experience there. I lied my ass off for months, even years, for fear that if I told the truth, I'd be sent right back.
Anne Bonney:
And let's not forget.....
Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---We all know about Mount Bachelor Academy's recent closure due to child abuse and neglect and that Aspen Education has claimed in court that it provides no therapy.
MBA was one of the programs that was studied in Behrens' work. The fact that MBA was closed for abusing children and that Behrens concluded MBA was "effective" despite offering no therapy and abusing hundreds of children is terribly troubling to say the least.
Here's a list of the all of the programs she looked at:
Academy at Swift River, Aspen Ranch, Copper Canyon Academy, Mount Bachelor Academy, Stone Mountain School, Pine Ridge Academy, SunHawk Academy,Turnabout Ranch, and Youth Care, Inc.
Academy at Swift River has been cited by state authorities for child abuse.
How many of the others have been as well? Are there any untainted entities in this study?
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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
Yes, that's an exit survey with zero follow up. How does that even remotely qualify as "proof"? I remember after "graduating" Straight, I was asked by the 'exit staff' about my experience there. I lied my ass off for months, even years, for fear that if I told the truth, I'd be sent right back.
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Not everyone lies like you Anne. There are many people who tell the truth everyday, all day. You need to listen to fellow survivors without assuming they are lying and here are 1,000 of them:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
Yes, that's an exit survey with zero follow up. How does that even remotely qualify as "proof"? I remember after "graduating" Straight, I was asked by the 'exit staff' about my experience there. I lied my ass off for months, even years, for fear that if I told the truth, I'd be sent right back.
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Not everyone lies like you Anne. There are many people who tell the truth everyday, all day. You need to listen to fellow survivors without assuming they are lying and here are 1,000 of them:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Prove one thing I've lied about.
Just as you need to listen to all of us saying how abusive it is/was without assuming we're lying. There have been plenty of us who've had almost identical stories, coming out of different facilities because most of them use the same basic techniques that Straight did, although the programs now are much better at dressing it up for the marks....er, parents.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
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Prove one thing I've lied about.
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I lied my ass off for months, even years.
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Need I say more?
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