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Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Whooter:
Another Thought...
Lets say you were talking to parents who were raising a child and the subject of discipline came up. You would want them have all the information they could on what other people do and feel is acceptable. You would just limit them to your opinion you would give them all the information about parenting options. I would even include the “No Spank” fringe group (not sure if you ever heard of them) which are obviously against spanking but also feel they should be able to tell people how to discipline their child inside their own homes, so that they are aware of it along with those who feel spanking is a must for all parents.
By exposing them to all the various options gives them a better sense on what is best for their family. A good example is Morgan and her parents. They came here for information and they received all sides. Exposing them to the bad side of programs isn’t going to necessarily sway them. They take it all in, consider the sources and make a balanced decision.
One of the mistakes many posters do here is withhold facts and the readers see right through it, like Morgans parents did. I think that is a good example.
Pile of Dead Kids:
How would you know what they did?
Troll Control:
Let's say you were being pressed by a marketing person from Aspen Education to place your child into one of their programs. They tell you "Our programs are safe and effective. There was s study done. Look it up on our website - the Behrens study."
But you're looking for more trustworthy sources than Aspen's marketing group because you saw online that even Ed Cons stopped referring to Aspen because of their deceptive marketing of dangerous programs.
So you go to good ol' Google and put in "Behrens study" in the search box. Then you learn the truth about Aspen programs and the Behrens study.
Now that's a great story...
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Let's say you were being pressed by a marketing person from Aspen Education to place your child into one of their programs. They tell you "Our programs are safe and effective. There was s study done. Look it up on our website - the Behrens study."
But you're looking for more trustworthy sources than Aspen's marketing group because you saw online that even Ed Cons stopped referring to Aspen because of their deceptive marketing of dangerous programs.
So you go to good ol' Google and put in "Behrens study" in the search box. Then you learn the truth about Aspen programs and the Behrens study.
Now that's a great story...
--- End quote ---
Exactly!! The person gets to see multiple facets. Now if and when a program is determined then the parents can discard the studies and focus on speaking with other parents and kids who have been through the program to further determine if it is a good fit for their family. The studies are just there to give them initial information on the industry and what they can provide.
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Troll Control:
The studY (you said "studIES" but there's only one - don't want to mislead people, do you?) is there for marketing purposes. When it came time to publish the results of phase two, which was data collected on kids up to a year out of the program back in 2007, Aspen self-censored it. They punted.
Ever notice that the only place this work is even shown on the internet is Aspen's troubled-teen funneling sites? No scientific journals, no peer review, no follow up...no NOTHING. Just the Aspen marketing page. Very telling, huh?
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