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Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---The studY (you said "studIES" but there's only one - don't want to mislead people, do you?) is there for marketing purposes. When it came time to publish the results of phase two, which was data collected on kids up to a year out of the program back in 2007, Aspen self-censored it. They punted.
Ever notice that the only place this work is even shown on the internet is Aspen's troubled-teen funneling sites? No scientific journals, no peer review, no follow up...no NOTHING. Just the Aspen marketing page. Very telling, huh?
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You forgot the APA convention. They do use it for marketing and to show off to their competitors how good they are, as they should. Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
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Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
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And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
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And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
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Well, you need to consider who they are trying to get to read the study. They presented it to the professional community and now they are presenting it to the people who will benefit most from it.. parents with troubled kids. I never referred to journals when I was considering placement. If publishing it in journals would benefit them then I am sure they would do it. If they felt it wasnt any good then they would not have it on their web sites or have presented it at the APA Convention.
I think you need to step back and look at what is in everyone's best interest.
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Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
--- End quote ---
And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
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Oh yeah, they considered the audience alright. They concluded it would hurt the bottom line, so they punted it.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
--- End quote ---
And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
--- End quote ---
Oh yeah, they considered the audience alright. They concluded it would hurt the bottom line, so they punted it.
--- End quote ---
Anything is possible business is business. But right now we just dont know.
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