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Ursus:
Comments left for the above article, "Jewish family sues Jamaican reform school for troubled teens" (by Kirsten Danis, March 25th 2008, New York Daily News):


Ras Natty-Uhuru - 9:28 AM · Mar 25, 2008
I am wondering if JAMAICA was part of George Bush's rendition program. It sound like Jamaica is no better than Egypt and Syria. Is the JAMAICAN Government receiving any subsidy from the US Government to run this facility?. "Ras Brother"Yeshua - 9:36 AM · Mar 25, 2008
What did he do for his parents to take such drastic measures?Yeshiva Man - 9:44 AM · Mar 25, 2008
I know Isaac (and his twin) very well as he has been to our home a few times. He is a kind hearted soul who has, despite a life of abuse, is one of the sweetes boys I know. As a parent, I am aghast as to how low a parent can stoop. Tranquility Bay is a under numerous investigations, and operates outside the US due to closures of its sister facilities in the US and other thirld world countries. A simple google search of "Tranquility Bay abuse" will leave you with hair standing. It reminds me of the horrors my grandparents went through in Germany!cbs1578 - 10:49 AM · Mar 25, 2008
"Hatzalah will carefully monitor these proceedings, taking into account the seriousness of the allegations," the organization said in a statement. Im sorry but whats that got to do with thiscase? Hatzolah is an EMS agency that feels they are above the law to begin with - maybe Daddy and his boys club should start playing by the rules of society around here and stop treating his kids like they are objects for his disposal... such typical nonsense from there stone age thinking.webber - 10:51 AM · Mar 25, 2008
Of course this is a situation involving Orthrodox Jews and they do have their own laws which bypass and are above the laws of whatever country they are living in. Muslims have simular lawsAint_Haten_On_U... - 3:35 PM · Mar 25, 2008
of course they are ras. its jamaicas version of juvenile hall. only the abuses there would never be tolerated here hence the closing of their us facilities. you know something isnt right if other 3rd world countries have also closed their facilities. im sure the parents of isaac gave the bay a huge donation to do what they did. what i want to know is why the parents sent him away in the first place.my guess is he didnt want to follow hasidic laws and rules. what the family doesnt get it that he will be 17 soon and under ny law he will be old enough to do what he wants. what is also disturbing is under hasidic law he became a man at 13 when he had his bar mitzvah. so why is the family really doing this to him. ? i pray his foster family can help get him out of that place. and get him the help he is going to need once he does get outVeeBee - 3:58 PM · Mar 25, 2008
This is what happens next: This young man survives "boot camp" then returns home mentally (and, perhaps physically) damaged from his ordeals at "boot camp." He tells his twin all that he's endured, then, he and his twin kill their parents but are found not guilty of murdering their parents because it was done in self-defense.abruck - 6:10 PM · Mar 25, 2008
in response to webber: Never heard so much anti-semetic dribble in a long time: what about the other 249 non-jews in the same facility in JamaicaRachaell - 6:34 PM · Mar 25, 2008
I don't know where the photo of the "prone" students is from, but I have seen it on the internet before. Perhaps the photo is another "urban legend". I personally have spoken to students who have attended this school. I have met graduates of this school. It is not a boot camp, it is a school. None of the students that I spoke with reported any irregularities. In fact they were lovely young men and women who were now leading their lives. They were placed at Tranquility Bay because of a destructive path they were on and the people who loved them above all else, were unable to keep them safe from self destructing. There is always another side to a story isn't there?RegularJoe - 6:36 PM · Mar 25, 2008
the parents couldnt control him so they sent him to a school in a 3rd world country and now they're complaining? NEXTRachaell - 6:47 PM · Mar 25, 2008
The parents aren't complaining, the foster family is.BoroParkJew - 9:34 PM · Mar 25, 2008
Rachel, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!!!! This has nothing to do with young Isaac. The hatemongering posters have found an opportunity to bash Hatzalah AND the Hassidm, I promise you they don't give a damn about Issac (who let's not forget is a Hassid himself). It's not everyday that something like this comes up. Apparently the fact that there IS ANOTHER side to the story is totally irrelevant. And the fact that Hatzalah just hired this guy a few months ago seemingly without prior knowledge of this incident, means nothing to these idiot morons either. So please, don't interrupt theHassid-bashfest. Get the drift?uberchristian - 12:36 AM · Mar 26, 2008
Lunatic, inbred hasidim are above the law in NY. I'm shocked the media was able to print a negative story on them. These things are always hushed up. the only other time I remember the hasidim getting negative press was when someone challenged their receiving federal funds to run a religious sect in upstate ny, seperation of church and state doesn't apply to them of course. Let the hasidim be a lesson to all ethnic groups on how to be above the US law. Stick together, keep your mouths closed to outsiders and anytime someone challenges you scream racism.jktz122 - 9:20 AM · Mar 26, 2008
hey uberchristian ummmmm inbred ultra fundamentalist christian are above the law "you like that statement"? whats happened is probably the kid has adhd and/or aspergers disorder and the parents dont know how to deal with it so whats the big deal but a**holes have to make an anti semitic story out of itBoroParkJew - 12:44 PM · Mar 26, 2008
Really, SHOCKING??? Every second day there are negative stories about the Hassidim, where the heck do you live and what papers do you read besides AM NewYork???------------------- I'm not even going to comment on the rest of your filthy words which surprisingly made it rough the Daily News filter.BoroParkJew - 12:55 PM · Mar 26, 2008
You're not an anti-semite youre a class lower than that.------------ Now lets hear all the ex-cop "I lives/worked in the Hassidic areas and blah blah blah" stories.djjone5 - 2:32 PM · Mar 27, 2008
rachaell you're an idiot. first off, Tranquility Bay is no a "boot camp" you're almost right....it's actually far worse. The prone students photo is taken from older photos of Tranquility Bay...another "school" run by the same company was shut down by Mexican Authorities for Human Rights Violations. I was also in one of these places and can attest to the fact that THEY ARE NOT SCHOOLS!! in fact, most kids that go, end up years BEHIND in their education. Look into the NYS court case against the Academy at Ivy Ridge (which was WWASP's ONLY "School") and all the fake diplomas they issued. These places are child abuse that is often unknown to parents, and severe brainwashing and psychological trauma. Do some research on it...unfortunately, somehow all the youth advocacy sites about this topic have been hacked into at the same time the last few weeks (hmmm coincidence that this happens around the same time congress has been investigating?---Oct 10th Hearing by the House Committee on Edwebdiva - 3:14 PM · Mar 27, 2008
Wow I simply post a link about the truth stating that this has been going on INSIDE the US for years and YEARS and it get's removed. My brothers death was not in vain and it's a shame some people feel the need to censor the truth. You can read his story here http://www.webdiva.org/straight/[/list]
Benthere - 12:12 AM · Mar 28, 2008
I am writing to you in regarding Tranquility Bay. My daughter was there for about a year and a half. Our daughter had always been a wonderfully talented girl and very close to her parents. However, as she entered adolescence she began making self destructive choices including being asked to leave two different schools. We were helpless. When we placed our daughter at Tranquility Bay, she did not like it and acted out in every way. However, she chose to settle down, become a positive leader and graduated the program at Tranquility Bay. I have pictures of her hugging the staff and she even chose to go back there after graduation to visit. While she was there we visited her many times and she was able to go to the beach with us. She also took the S.A.T. test and was accepted to the university of her choice. We saved our daughter's life and it is great to see her smiling, happy and healthy. Please don't distort the truth. Parents need to know there is help for their teens.djjone5 - 8:32 AM · Mar 28, 2008
The "going back:" part is Stockholm Syndrome. I did the same thing. As for you "going to the beach with her" you must be the only parent in the 10 years I've spent researching these places that was afforded such a visit from a WWASP facility. Or, yet again, you're trying to skirt the facts of these places that abuses are rampant. It's not even something you can dismiss anymore now that it's been investigated by the government and proven to happen. You may be able to say "not to my child," which I highly doubt, but regardless of the reason, child abuse in any form is NOT THERAPEUTIC!!Zetek - 10:16 AM · Mar 28, 2008
Hi. I am writing to you about the story that was in the daily news about Isaac Hersh. The story is a fabrication to the highest degree. I grew up with them and know them since I was a little kid. The parents never abused anyone and I would know since my own family took in 10 foster children from abusive homes over the years.flossie - 3:14 PM · Mar 28, 2008
I have to agree with Djjone5....Rachaell you are a certified idiot and or a WWASPS spy put on this to say postive things about Tranquility Bay, which is sinful to even put the words "TRANQUILITY, BAY, AND POSITIVE" in the same sentence. In fact, I would love for Rachaell or any other person who thinks this school is a school to visit it or better yet let me set a vacation scene for you there...."Come to Tranquility Bay and view the beautiful sea and sniff the breezy air.....go ahead fill your lungs with the aroma of stank. Then enjoy a delicious 5 course dinner as you watch the sun set over the lovely concete wall. Enjoy drinks and snacks poolside and request the foot massage while lounging. May I also recommend the comfortable rooms with many amenities for your convenience. However, our policy requires you not look in a mirror for any longer than 5 seconds, and that spend at least one full day face down, in the dirt with your hands and feet chained to fence in which you will notiWDtony - 5:24 AM · Apr 2, 2008
These programs are all BAD news. Some kids have sued their parents for placing them in programs and won in court. I hope this happens in this case. There is ample information online about how psychologically damaging these programs for troubled teens are. The methods are that of a cult and are purported as a cure-all for any bad behavior a kid presents as a reflection to the environment. This is just one example of thousands, why parents shouldn't be allowed to have their kids kidnapped, tortured and imprisoned at the hands of Nazi-like, mentally ill program directors.

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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "anythinganyone" ---Why is it emphasised so much that they are a Jewish family?
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Have you been reading he is Jewish, his parents are Jewish, the people who were advocating for his release from TB were Jewish, the people who sued the parents originally were Jewish, the people taking care of the boy now in Texas are Jewish, the News Papers who are publishing the story are owned by Jewish people, the person reporting the story is Jewish and finally his parents and the lawyer that are presenting the current suit are Jewish.
Hope this takes care of the "emphasis" of the word Jewish.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "anythinganyone" ---Why is it emphasised so much that they are a Jewish family?
--- End quote ---
Have you been reading he is Jewish, his parents are Jewish, the people who were advocating for his release from TB were Jewish, the people who sued the parents originally were Jewish, the people taking care of the boy now in Texas are Jewish, the News Papers who are publishing the story are owned by Jewish people, the person reporting the story is Jewish and finally his parents and the lawyer that are presenting the current suit are Jewish.
Hope this takes care of the "emphasis" of the word Jewish.
--- End quote ---
Probably also 'cuz he's from a "normally insular Orthodox community"...

Yael Eshet Khever:
They're emphasizing his being Jewish because he's not just an ordinary Jewish kid, he's from a highly orthodox family belonging to the Hassidut movement. These people live extremely insular lives in communities that are often trying their best to segregate themselves and their kids from the outside world. Weird bunch.

Pile of Dead Kids:
It also multiplies the irony.

You'd think that Orthodox Jews, of all the people in the world, would know better than to send their own kids to camps run by control freaks...

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