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Tranquility Bay parents on attack
Oscar:
They failed to destroy the life of their son, so now they are going after those who told the truth of the place the banished their son to:
Michael and Miriam Hersh demand Yahoo! and Google release names of blog commenters for $411M lawsuit, by Simone Weichselbaum, New York Daily News, July 22, 2010
DannyB II:
Well if your spreading lies, that is defamation and you can be successfully sued for that. I don't believe you should use anonymity as part of your slanderous assault on someone.
I understand we are talking about Tranquility Bay and concerned citizens trying to help their son. Which I salute but using slander to accomplish the mission.
Obviously we don't know all the particulars about this relationship between son and parents (from reading one small article) but I would gather his parents were not lying about how they felt that he needed treatment (in their mind and hearts). I am not saying the son did or did not need some form of help, all I am saying is do we go to slander (extremism) to get what "the" advocates want.
The (so-called rescuers) are just as bad if not worse then the parents for crying out loud.
Ursus:
New York Daily News
Michael and Miriam Hersh demand Yahoo! and Google release names of blog commenters for $411M lawsuit
BY Simone Weichselbaum · DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, July 22nd 2010, 4:00 AM
thecooljew.net; failedmessiah.typepad.com
Michael Hersh (b.) and wife Miriam are trying to sue anonymous commenters that criticized the couple's parenting decisions on blogs such as the cooljew.net and failedmessiah.com.
An angry Brooklyn couple whose parenting choices were excoriated online by scores of anonymous commenters are demanding Yahoo and Google unmask their attackers so they can sue them for $411 million.
Michael and Miriam Hersh were pilloried after their fellow Orthodox Jews in March 2008 launched a bizarre rescue mission to pull their troubled teen son from a behavior boot camp they put him in.
Michael Hersh was described as a "Nazi" - and worse - by commenters on thecooljew.com Web site. He and and his wife were further criticized across the blogosophere.
The Hersh family, which declined comment yesterday, has insisted in the past they were looking out for their son's best interests - not being cruel.
The online criticism of the mom and dad was relentless, and Michael Hersh says it's to blame for his firing from his $200,000-a-year job as the CEO of Hatzolah, the Jewish volunteer ambulance corps that serves the city.
The suit filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court cites one site - thefailedmessiah.com - for posting Michael Hersh's picture and asking: "Should this man be CEO of Hatzalah. ... Shouldn't he and his wife be in jail."
The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a group that says its fighting for Internet freedom - and Web anonymity - is trying to block subpoenas sent to Yahoo and Google, which hosted the blogs in question.
The suit is the latest in a line of suits the foundation's senior staff lawyer Matt Zimmerman said could chill free speech on the freewheeling Internet.
"All you have to do is file a lawsuit, issue a subpoena and find the identities of your critics," said Zimmerman.
"This is happening more and more," he added, "so more people are being offended than ever before."
Still, he thinks their right to remain anonymous should be protected by the courts.
"No blog is safe," said the blogger behind a site called theunorthodoxjew. "Any blog will be affected if Yahoo or Google gives up the information."
Media law expert Sam Bayard said Internet users should realize there is a difference between criticizing someone you disagree with - and spreading lies about them.
"If what you are saying is illegal, known as defamation, someone can sue you," said Bayard, who is the assistant director of the Citizen Media Law Project at Harvard Law School.
Besides the bloggers, the Hershes also name their relatives, Hasidic activist Tzvi Gluck and nearly a dozen others who coordinated the effort to rescue their son from Tranquility Bay, a notoriously rough boot camp.
With Edgar Sandoval
simonew@nydailynews.com
© Copyright 2010 NYDailyNews.com.
Pile of Dead Kids:
Oh, yes. Trying to sue people for telling the truth. That'll work very well, just like it did for Sue Scheff.
Streissand Effect is already all over the Internet for this one. If people didn't know that Michael and Miriam Hersh were child abusing shitheads before, they sure do now.
I love it when programmies self-destruct like this, is there any way to encourage more of it? Hey Danny, want to tell all the program parents you meet that someone is slandering them on the Internet and they can sue for it? Go on, it'll work perfectly!
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---Well if your spreading lies, that is defamation and you can be successfully sued for that. I don't believe you should use anonymity as part of your slanderous assault on someone.
I understand we are talking about Tranquility Bay and concerned citizens trying to help their son. Which I salute but using slander to accomplish the mission.
Obviously we don't know all the particulars about this relationship between son and parents (from reading one small article) but I would gather his parents were not lying about how they felt that he needed treatment (in their mind and hearts). I am not saying the son did or did not need some form of help, all I am saying is do we go to slander (extremism) to get what "you" (advocates) want.
The (so-called rescuers) are just as bad if not worse then the parents for crying out loud.
--- End quote ---
Perhaps ya might wanna do a little more research as to just what IS already known about the case ... prior to making your assumptions, mmm?
See also this post by Covergaard in December of 2008...
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