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Whooter:
Look, DJ, you just proved yourself to be a liar. Why do you have to go to such great lengths to ignore and bury facts? Why not be honest with the readers here. I gave you all the links and information that you asked for... and enough rope for you to hang yourself.
If you had bothered to read the presentation it is mentioned that WIRB approved the study in the body of the study itself as presented to the American Psychological Association (APA). You can pretend to have called anyone you want. But I placed the facts up here with links and you have nothing to dispute it except a fabricated phone call.
Here lets take another look at the facts as they stand today:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
Canyon Research & Consulting: Independent research company that conducted the study.
Western Institutional Review Board: Independent board that approved research and audited the study.
The above study was presented at the American Psychological Association (APA) conference 2006.
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Whooter:
Interesting tidbit:
Before most research studies can start, they must be approved by a committee, usually called an "institutional review board," or "IRB." IRBs are made up of scientists, doctors, non-scientists and community members. The IRB reviews the research to make sure it is well designed, that the risks are as low as possible, and that these risks are reasonable when compared to the possible benefits of the research. The IRB also reviews the consent form for the research to make sure that it is accurate. If it approves the research, the IRB continues to review the ongoing research after it starts.
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Troll Control:
That's all well and good, but you have provided zero support for your claim that the WIRB "oversaw" and "audited" this project. The WIRB says they didn't and there's no documents on their website that support your claim.
I see you're frustrated and angry, probably because you admitted you have fiduciary ties to Aspen and you think they'll lose money if you lose the argument, which you have.
The WIRB did not "audit" or "oversee" this project, nor was there any "one year follow-up" as you have been claiming. You made some pretty big claims and couldn't back them up. It just makes you look more desperate and foolish to start name calling while still never providing any evidence of your claims. We'll wait for your documentation to be posted or, more than likely, you'll just rant, rave and name-call then skulk away as usual.
It's not that big of a deal. You should just be honest and stop claiming things you have no evidence to support.
Whooter:
This should cover your concern so that your voice will be heard.
You have a fondness for footers, DJ, so I added your disclaimer:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
Canyon Research & Consulting: Independent research company that conducted the study.
* Western Institutional Review Board: Independent board that approved research and audited the study.
The above study was presented at the American Psychological Association (APA) conference 2006. * Dysfunction Junction of fornits claimed he called WIRB personally and they stated they never heard of this study.
DJ, The above should alert any new APA members until you can get this straightened out and expose this problem at the next APA convention. Mention some of your degrees sometimes that helps.
I think that should put this to rest and spare DJ any further embarrassment.
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Troll Control:
So, in other words, you can't provide anything but a link to the WIRB website which says absolutely nothing about this study? If you actually read the Behrens work, you'd see that the WIRB did nothing more than approve the questionaire.
There was no "oversight" or "auditing" as you claimed. WIRC has no record of "auditing" or "overseeing" this work, only approving a questionaire. If you have some evidence that even the researcher doesn't claim to have then post it. If not, then deal wit the fact that you have no evidence to support your flimsy claims.
You can rant and rave and name-call all you want, but it's not going to mean that evidence will magically appear. What sunk you is that you claim way more than even Canyon Research claims - nowhere in that study do they claim "oversight" or "auditing" by WIRC. It's just not in there. If you hadn't fabricated these "oversight" and "auditing" claims some people may have believed you. As it stands, nobody does (except maybe Danny, lols).
You're really upset over this, so maybe you should just try to cool off and come back later with some evidence. We're patient enough to wait for it.
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