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Group Therapy increasing Drug Risk?????/
Froderik:
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--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---Did a lot of drugs before the 'gram, and even more after the 'gram...
TRUE.
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:roflmao: I love this place...... Frodie
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lala: :rofl: :rofl: :rocker:
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I stated there were independent studies performed which support that programs are 80% effective.
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This is an awfully big statement. "Programs are 80% effective" implies that all programs are 80% effective. You'd have to cite some research to support this type of claim. I don't believe this is true and I think you're trying to mislead people.
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Further down in my post I stated:
I would also be careful to conclude from this that all programs are 80% effective because each program incorporates a different model and programs can vary greatly. So you need to read which programs were included in the study.
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But you didn't provide any studies. You keep tossing out an 80% "success rate" for programs of 14-16 months duration, yet you have no data to support this statement. That is trying to mislead people. There's no basis in fact to support your claim.
Whooter:
I have posted this so many times I thought everyone had seen it.
Here it is:
Link
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I have posted this so many times I thought everyone had seen it.
Here it is:
Link
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Like I said, industry-sponsored studies are pretty suspect as to their credibility, particularly when there are no peer reviewed articles supporting same findings appearing in academic research journals.
The study in your above link was presented at a conference but, to my knowledge, was never published in any self-respecting journal. Picking apart the details of the study, as has been done so many times already here, by so many, has revealed why.
Should I be incorrect, and you have proof of its being published somewhere, please do provide us with a link! Incidentally, uploading something on scribd.com doesn't count. :D
DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I have posted this so many times I thought everyone had seen it.
Here it is:
Link
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Like I said, industry-sponsored studies are pretty suspect as to their credibility, particularly when there are no peer reviewed articles supporting same findings appearing in academic research journals.
The study in your above link was presented at a conference but, to my knowledge, was never published in any self-respecting journal. Picking apart the details of the study, as has been done so many times already here, by so many, has revealed why.
Should I be incorrect, and you have proof of its being published somewhere, please do provide us with a link! Incidentally, uploading something on scribd.com doesn't count. :D
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Let me ask a stupid question, since no Doctors of Psychology/Sociology read hear, were not being quoted in any journals and I sincerely doubt that anybody with any professional character reads this web site nor do many parents, why is it so important that whooter have a article approved by a self respecting journal and who decides on the respected journal.
Ursus your opinion has its merits but is by no means the end all, especially how you treat information that is posted here, it is questionably irresponsible. You have a tendency of allowing your biased opinions to interfere with good judgement.
Industry sponsored studies are no more suspect then your (Ursus) opinions you give freely here on fornits, hoping that your target audience will read, (PARENTS).
You ask others to reach a high bar of credibility, when you run loose and reckless with your opinions and information you post.
Why Whooter even bothers with you is the 64 thousand dollar question, I think he enjoys the banter.
I have always found you to be a phony who can not find his way out of his prejudices against the TTI.
Whooter please by all means get in on this conversation. They seem to want to hold everyone else to a higher expectation then themselves.
I find Ursus comments, where he says, "the article you posted from the conference was picked apart by many here on Fornits", to be very arrogant to say the least.
Ursus, you really flatter yourself to be a expert. Please don't dislocate your elbow.
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