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Aspen Education's Systematic Child Abuse

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Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ.  But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse.  There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them.  I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
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That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.

From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions, color emphasis added:

In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]

From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension:

Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
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:deal:  :poison:
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Like it says there is an indication there but they have not been substantiated.  Sounds like they never will if this is final like you say.  So far there are only 9 that were substantiated.



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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution.  Now we'll see where that goes.

Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny.  I'm sure it's good for your karma.
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Ouch!!!! that statement makes me want to change my mind. Ya, I thought you would go there.
 
I'm sorry I have not seen the paperwork where they have convicted anyone.
 
Nice to see you are part of the "guilty first"group. Also you sound like you were involved in the investigation...lol.

As far as "systemic" since this is the new word in vogue now, "Systemic".
Results:
a.) affecting the body generally  b.) supplying those parts of the body that receive blood through the aorta rather than through the pulmonary artery.

Slow down and lets see what happens, DJ.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ.  But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse.  There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them.  I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
--- End quote ---
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.

From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions, color emphasis added:

In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]

From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension:

Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
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Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote.  They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM"  were/are exposed to.  Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology.  Why is this so difficult to grasp?

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ.  But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse.  There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them.  I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
--- End quote ---
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.

From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions, color emphasis added:

In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]

From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension:

Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
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Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote.  They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM"  were/are exposed to.  Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology.  Why is this so difficult to grasp?
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Seems like we are all reading the same thing and are in agreement.  Now the next step is if they end up substantiating all the findings (above) then we can say 100% of the kids were abused instead of just the 9 that are substantiated so far.  This seems to be the point everyone wants to get to I think.



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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ.  But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse.  There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them.  I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
--- End quote ---
That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.

From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions, color emphasis added:

In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]

From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension:

Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
--- End quote ---


Pretty much all that needs to be said is in this quote.  They found that the "exemplars" experience is "not unique and is substantially consistent" with what "ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM"  were/are exposed to.  Since the "exemplars" experience was found to be abusive, and that said experience is substantially consistent with what ALL the rest of the kids there go thru........all the kids there were abused by virtue of simply being exposed to the program's methodology.  Why is this so difficult to grasp?
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Sounds like a lot of broad terminology to me, we will just have to see.

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