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Aspen Education's Systematic Child Abuse
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Funny, I posted that quote several times and provided all the links to the reports and Whooter has been denying it for days. I guess he finally read the report, now that Ursus spoon fed it (or rather posted it publicly so it can't rationally be denied) to him, as usual. :beat: Look at the lengths to which people here are willing to go to in order to minimize, obfuscate or outright lie to protect child abusers. There's something wrong with people like that.
Anyway...the report already has concluded that all the kids were abused. If you can't understand English, I guess you could miss that.
There have also been criminal referrals to the sherrif's department.
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No, you said that 100% of the kids were abused. The report still stands at 9 being substantiated and the rest are pending (or these is an indication that the rest were abused). There are opinions indicating that they will rule that all were abused, but we need to wait to see if they substantiate the rest.
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DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Funny, I posted that quote several times and provided all the links to the reports and Whooter has been denying it for days. I guess he finally read the report, now that Ursus spoon fed it (or rather posted it publicly so it can't rationally be denied) to him, as usual. :beat: Look at the lengths to which people here are willing to go to in order to minimize, obfuscate or outright lie to protect child abusers. There's something wrong with people like that.
Anyway...the report already has concluded that all the kids were abused. If you can't understand English, I guess you could miss that.
There have also been criminal referrals to the sherrif's department.
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See DJ it does not say that all the kids were abused, it is implying it. They have not settled on a this yet, wait for the case to be settled.
This is your problem DJ, just because Ursus posted the charges, this does not make them automatically true. We'll see at the end of the investigation. Hold your horses there, your not "right" yet.
Whooter did not deny anything unless it was nonsense you've been talking, he has stated over and over that they only have 8-9 substantiated cases of abuse, that's it. Guess what that has not changed.
Oh and those criminal referrals will get'cha every time.
DJ are you part of the SICCO Operation.....HMMmmmmm.
Troll Control:
The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution. Now we'll see where that goes.
Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny. I'm sure it's good for your karma.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---The state child abuse investigation is over, those are the final findings of fact (substantiated, documented charges by the state that abuse was systemic and all kids were abused) and the case has been referred for criminal prosecution. Now we'll see where that goes.
Keep apologizing for child abusers, Danny. I'm sure it's good for your karma.
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If that is the final report then it states clearly that only 9 have been substantiated. The ones that you said have been referred to the sheriffs department you will have to let us know how they turn out. If they substantiate them then we will add them to the 9.
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Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I agree with a lot of what you say, DJ. But they concluded that there were only 9 substantiated cases of abuse. There were many "findings" but the findings have not been substantiated as of yet except 9 of them. I am sure the number will rise once they decipher which they can substantiate and which of the findings they cannot.
But at this point only 9 are substantiated which is about 10%, not 100%.
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That is not quite how the Department of Human Services in the state of Oregon saw it.
From the Complaint and Order to Correct Conditions, color emphasis added:
In October 2009, the Office of Investigations and Training (OIT) completed its investigation and determined that eight allegations of abuse involving five individual students were substantiated against the agency, Mt. Bachelor Academy. The report indicates that the abuse allegations are "exemplars" in that these five clients' experience is not unique and is "substantially consistent" with the experience of all children enrolled in the program. The report further substantiated an allegation of abuse against the Executive Director. The Executive Director either knew of the abusive practices of the agency, or she should have known what was happening under her authority.[/list]
From the above transcribed Order of Emergency License Suspension:
Ultimate Findings of Fact: DHS finds that due to MBA's abuse and neglect of students and violations of the licensing rules listed above, MBA poses a serious danger to public health or safety should MBA be permitted to continue operating as a therapeutic boarding school for children. DHS finds that a condition exists that immediately endangers the health or safety of the children at MBA should MBA be permitted to continue providing therapeutic, educational and residential services to children.[/list]
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