To clarify, I thought DJ wondered if Whooter or Suck It authored the ED thread, and I said I did not think so and stated why. Just because I dislike Whooter does not mean I think actions should ebeascribed to people who are not guilty.
My feelings for Whooter is not about being pro-program - it's about sabotage, derailment, and insincerity of which there have been years' worth of posts. You don't get it and that's fine. If you wish to think the worst, there is not much I can do. My feelings for programs have evolved over time, and has been solidified by further study off Fornits. In fact, you don't really know what I think.
I think it is possible that you are guilty of doing what you accuse every one under the Fornits sun of doing - looking at people through one lens.
Listen I am not going to get into a tit for tat with you too, I have had some rather nice exchanges with you and would like to keep it that way.
Whooter is not that much different then I am, there are a couple of exceptions I was in a program and he writes better, oh OK he holds his temper better too. But his take on how programs can work, are essential, and are going to exist, well I am not that far off track.
Yes that is coming from someone that was in a program, worked for a program, still am affiliated with programs in a round about way and still see the need for certain programs.
Now if that makes me the black sheep of the family so be it, actually if you were not so closed minded you could see not every program is like the one you went to. I will agree there are programs out there that are falling far short of there stated objectives. I will also say not all programs are failing in their services they provide.
Whether we like it or not, not every family wants to deal with the problem or can, not every child has parents to turn to, children comes from all kinds of situations and not every child has parents with funds to hire counselors or have the Insurance. So please lets talk reality instead of a idealistic point of view.
It seems we are all experts in this field, we went to programs, then went to college, then came out and did more research,
Jeesh, like I said, "everybody is a expert". Well that is great.
Last thing here is a excerpt of your last post;
"My feelings for Whooter is not about being pro-program - it's about sabotage, derailment, and insincerity of which there have been years' worth of posts. You don't get it and that's fine. If you wish to think the worst, there is not much I can do. My feelings for programs have evolved over time, and has been solidified by further study off Fornits. In fact, you don't really know what I think".
Well was this part of your research also, investigating Whooter. Only you folks get it and any one else who disagrees is
"you don't get it and that's fine", OK then.
Everybody's feelings for programs have evolved over time, they were 20-30 yrs. ago and most here have furthered their studies off fornits, though I suspect you studied here also.
As for knowing how you think, ya I can get a perspective from your posts, yeppers I can.
Back to Whooter, what is this sabotage, derailment and insincerity all about here, years of posting, come on Samara. Please tell me your not caught up in the conspiracy theories too.
Your blinded by the beacon of light, the fornits light, get out of the light and you will see, we are just average garden variety Joes, seeking answers.