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none-ya:
There were always stories about parents being brought in to beat their kids I never saw it myself, and I figured a lot it was hype to scare us. But it is true that they recruted from all white afluent neighborhoods. The only poorer kids there were sent there by the courts.(like me) And still even with all the court ordered kids, there wasn't a single african american (male or female) in the group when I was there.There was one black staff member though. Arthur was a big intimidating (ex?) junkie, who used to stand up little white kids , screaming at them to the point that he spat on them. that if they were to meet on the street, he'd be pimping thier asses for money. Imagine if the roles were reversed the riots it would have caused. Yes the seed was a big deal and the old man ran the show. Still with all his controversy, why can't I find a single artical anywhere that mentions his passing?
Whooter:
I have seen this time and again here on fornits. I believe Antigens remarks reflect her bitterness towards this Barker fellow and not giving him an inch of credit for anything even down to the small obit. comment shows there was no intention of conveying credible information just an attempt to discredit him.
Many posters here will describe their time in programs by tearing down every aspect of the place from the food, staff, groups, wall paper and the clothes they wore. You rarely even hear them speak about a good friend that they met or a counselor who helped them out. These are red flags that should alert you to the fact you are not getting the facts. These accounts are not intended to convey or share information about their time inside a program but rather intent to hurt the program or industry and it comes across loud and clear.
We would expect a person who had a difficult stay in a program to describe it like this:
The place was like a prison, I met a few friends and the counselors were nice for the most part but there was this one counselor who was downright abusive. I did learn a few things about myself and am grateful for that but overall I think it was a waste of time. I wish I could have spent more time working on my writing instead of the group therapies which were a waste of time. The food was okay, but I would never want to go back.
Someone who is intent on just hurting the program or industry would answer like this:
I was kidnapped and held captive in a Gulag where I was abused 24/7. The place should be shut down. Every program is abusive and performs brainwashing on people. Not one child has ever benefited from a program. If they tell you this then they must be brainwashed.
Just by living life and meeting people we all know it is not our human nature to wake up each morning wanting to go to work to hurt people, beat them up and restrain them or to find enjoyment in other peoples' pain. People like this do exist but they are few and far between so we all know which stories are credible and which are not if by anything their underlying intent/ motive.
Generally (not being specific to people who went to the seed) I don’t particularly blame these people for their slamming of the programs they attended, but I don’t think we can take their account as fact because their intent is not to convey honest and balanced information and their motive prevents them from being fair and open.
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DannyB II:
Ya know Whooter I was thinking the same thing, I expected more out of JOM. He usually is lucid when he posts but hey down there in gator land they could be roping again.
Mighty strange shit coming out of him tonight.
Not trying to make enemies, JOM.
none-ya:
Whooter, I've never had words withn you 'till now. I understand why nobody here much likes you. it's because you are
TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT.
none-ya:
Oh no! danny b and whooter? Pretty scary tag team. Is it true you guys share a 1 bedroom flat in Key West?
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