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justonemore:
Some years ago, i spoke with a clergyman on Fl's west coast. He told me a story. As follows. he said that he's been appointed to a commission by Gov. Reuben Askew to "bust the seed" He said that the commission kept asking the seed to 'open the books'. Thereafter,a group of seventeen young people came forward to state that this clergyman had smoked dope with them, made advances, etc. The same story with minor variation was reported to me by two different teachers of mine, who apparently had had the temerity to protest my incarceration. I recall stories of Ellen Morphonius, recall bomb- threat, recall much more than that. Any one who has information, corroborative or even aneccdotal, please come forward now. J.O.M.

none-ya:
Am I to uderstand you were in the seed?
Where and when?

justonemore:
None ya; You have annoyed me and I you. Let's put the axes down for a while and discuss. I'll start by answering your question. Yes I was in the seed, dade County fl, tropical park,  late 72- early 73. Your turn, P.M. Me if confidentiality is a factor, but I'll only discuss if conventional courtesies are respected. J.O.M.

none-ya:
No hard feelings here pal. I've said many times here , I was in the seed st. pete summer '73. Managed to run away as a newcomer living at home. Was on 10-10's  for 5 months. Could'nt take it anymore. Never thought much about it and then I found  fornits and well......

justonemore:
To none ya; Gratefully accepted. Now, It's my undersanding that St pete was run slightly differently, than other locations.. some  ways better some ways worse.. Either way, a hell of a railroad. Don't know if you recall, but Sen. sam ervin  chaired hearings on the seed. Antigen indicates it (or rather Barker was not a big deal, but if he wasn't, the seed was) That cleregyman told me that the children of the prominent were especially targeted, as the seed wanted political influence. And political influence they got. A common practice in tropical park was to haul a kid into an office and have a staff member or a parent hit him. When he hit back, police were called, and an appropriate number of witness would swear the kid attacked. Friendly prosecutors would haul the kid before Judge ellen " Maximum' Morphonius. she would compassionately remand the young miscreant to custody of the seed, til 21.. presto-chango, no more age of majority, no petition for emancipated minor.. almost happened to me, i took the beating instead. (hard to convince a cop you are the attacker when you're bleeding and they're not. Morphonius was years later dumped from the bench.. seems she was taking bribes.  My point is that in dade county they (Barker and  true-believers), committed many very serious felonies.. that they owned or influenced judges, lawyers, corrections people, cops, teachers, doctors, anyone and every one.
You can't do that without serious juice and serious money.
Antigen maintains, and i disagree, that Barker was no big deal. Lives and careers were destroyed by these folk, and why after all would the Gov. have to appoint a commission to 'bust them', why senate hearings on the subject,why the almost surreal lack of investigative reporting, the lack of documentation. It's there I believe, we just ain't found it yet.
gotta admit, in it's way, the perfect crime.. kidnapping on a grand scale, and because the accused are called 'druggies', they've lost all credibility, testimony is worthless.
In my case, although i had smoked rope many times, i got bored with it and stopped. by the time i went in, i could have passed a drug test. The evidence against me was planted ( yes, i know who, and no, I don't forgive) and later found to be a 'plant by a tox lab. I think it's very wide very deep and very very criminal.  Thoughts, anyone?
J.O.M.

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