Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED

[Whooter]

A young girl comes to fornits for advice on how to handle the impending event of her going to a program, she is open with everyone and people like "Pile of Dead Kids" and "Niles" trick her into giving her name and then post her personal information on the internet for the fun of it.

How come no other posters speak out against this?  People get totally outraged by my opinions but no one cares about this 15 year old girl heading for a program?

Should we warn other people somehow before they start posting here that their personal information will be posted openly so that they can be humiliated and placed at risk?

Did you just miss Frod's and my posts or are you just ignoring them?   Edited to add:  And Oscar's too?

Lets say someone came onto fornits and a poster referred them to a program.  Set up a link to their website, accomplished the reference…. The poster thanked them and proceeded to place their kid in a program.  Then kept the active link on fornits for future references.

Would this place be silent?  Would we get a response from you as :  “Dick move to refer a kid to a program”  or Frod: “Too bad, I see your point” or would people be outraged and pissed that fornits was used to refer kids to programs and troll that bastard until he left?  Do you see my point?  It appears most of the posters here really don’t care about kids’ safety as they claim they do.  They mostly care about being anti-program and merely use kids as a pawn to that end.

No one has advocated for this child and is trying to get the link or information taken down except Oscar.  If this link were to an Edcon and a child was at risk to be sent to a program I think we all know it would be a different story.  This thread would be on page 15 by now.



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[Inculcated]

@ Who while I'm sure this turn of events came like Christmas in July for you spin troll, that was my PM from last night that the class act included on that ED link.

[Ursus]

A young girl comes to fornits for advice on how to handle the impending event of her going to a program, she is open with everyone and people like "Pile of Dead Kids" and "Niles" trick her into giving her name and then post her personal information on the internet for the fun of it.

How come no other posters speak out against this?  People get totally outraged by my opinions but no one cares about this 15 year old girl heading for a program?

Should we warn other people somehow before they start posting here that their personal information will be posted openly so that they can be humiliated and placed at risk?

Did you just miss Frod's and my posts or are you just ignoring them?   Edited to add:  And Oscar's too?

Don't feel bad; he even missed Danny's!

Nah, it was a very uncool thing to do... And pretty hypocritical, given that one of the main complaints/outrages 'bout sending kids to programs is the fact that it involves denying them informed consent.

And here's another kicker: they haven't even sent her to program yet! For all anyone knows, Mom's digging in her heels due to misguided ego and vanity concerns, and the decision not to send her is being made quietly so as not to ruffle any feathers. Just sayin' ... as a hopeful thought, which may or may not be realistic. Nonetheless, what *is* real, is that she is not there yet.

[kleenex]

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

[MorganMDC]

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[Whooter]

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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[Anne Bonney]

A young girl comes to fornits for advice on how to handle the impending event of her going to a program, she is open with everyone and people like "Pile of Dead Kids" and "Niles" trick her into giving her name and then post her personal information on the internet for the fun of it.

How come no other posters speak out against this?  People get totally outraged by my opinions but no one cares about this 15 year old girl heading for a program?

Should we warn other people somehow before they start posting here that their personal information will be posted openly so that they can be humiliated and placed at risk?

Did you just miss Frod's and my posts or are you just ignoring them?   Edited to add:  And Oscar's too?

Lets say someone came onto fornits and a poster referred them to a program.  Set up a link to their website, accomplished the reference…. The poster thanked them and proceeded to place their kid in a program.  Then kept the active link on fornits for future references.

Would this place be silent?  Would we get a response from you as :  “Dick move to refer a kid to a program”  or Frod: “Too bad, I see your point” or would people be outraged and pissed that fornits was used to refer kids to programs and troll that bastard until he left?  Do you see my point?  It appears most of the posters here really don’t care about kids’ safety as they claim they do.  They mostly care about being anti-program and merely use kids as a pawn to that end.

No one has advocated for this child and is trying to get the link or information taken down except Oscar.  If this link were to an Edcon and a child was at risk to be sent to a program I think we all know it would be a different story.  This thread would be on page 15 by now.

So, you just ignored all of our responses.  Ok.....why can't you just admit that, without the lecture?

I just found out about this this morning.  I said it was a dick move.   Should I have gone the route DannyBoi did and attempt to sue/profit from whomever put it up there?   :eek:  :seg:

This is a sad situation all around.  I wish the kid was important enough to the parents for them to take some time off work and figure out what's bothering her, rather than spending all that money to send her away to strangers....that's an even dickier move than the ED thing.

[Anne Bonney]

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.

How do you know this?  

 The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.

How do you know this?

 

Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.

Morgan's parents need to take a few of those $$$$ they'd like to spend to lock her up and try and figure out what's bothering her.


 

She is really getting some bad advice here imo.

OMG....I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU, that you would think that!   Hey!  Maybe STICC can place her and you can collect a sweet referral?   :eek:  :seg:

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[Whooter]

This is a sad situation all around.  I wish the kid was important enough to the parents for them to take some time off work and figure out what's bothering her, rather than spending all that money to send her away to strangers....that's an even dickier move than the ED thing.

I agree, if we knew all the circumstances leading up to her needing placement.  But one doesnt justify the other in my opinion.  If someone felt your boat was hurting the environment and felt you could have purchased a solar option instead polluting the inlet seas it would justify them creating a ED page about your family and posting your personal information on the internt.  I think you would be pissed off, but the person creating the page would feel it was okay.



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[Anne Bonney]

This is a sad situation all around.  I wish the kid was important enough to the parents for them to take some time off work and figure out what's bothering her, rather than spending all that money to send her away to strangers....that's an even dickier move than the ED thing.

I agree, if we knew all the circumstances leading up to her needing placement.  But one doesnt justify the other in my opinion.  If someone felt your boat was hurting the environment and felt you could have purchased a solar option instead polluting the inlet seas it would justify them creating a ED page about your family and posting your personal information on the internt.  I think you would be pissed off, but the person creating the page would feel it was okay.

The King of Bad Analogies strikes again.  Apples to oranges, nobody in the situation you propose is underaged....no one in the situation you've proposed is in possible danger of potentially being locked in a 'thought reform camp'.......HOWEVER......did you not see that I have condemned what was done on ED???  Of course you did, but on par for your penchant for spin, you've decided that what I've said is something completely different than what I actually wrote.

[Whooter]

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.

How do you know this?  

 The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.

How do you know this?

This was the deal at ASR.  They had rules like, no sex, no running away or leaving the campus, no hitting,smoking etc.  If these rules were broken a few times the parents were contacted and asked to come pick up their kid.  this happened to one of the children in an earlier peer group.



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[Whooter]

This is a sad situation all around.  I wish the kid was important enough to the parents for them to take some time off work and figure out what's bothering her, rather than spending all that money to send her away to strangers....that's an even dickier move than the ED thing.

I agree, if we knew all the circumstances leading up to her needing placement.  But one doesnt justify the other in my opinion.  If someone felt your boat was hurting the environment and felt you could have purchased a solar option instead polluting the inlet seas it would justify them creating a ED page about your family and posting your personal information on the internt.  I think you would be pissed off, but the person creating the page would feel it was okay.

The King of Bad Analogies strikes again.  Apples to oranges, nobody in the situation you propose is underaged....no one in the situation you've proposed is in possible danger of potentially being locked in a 'thought reform camp'.......HOWEVER......did you not see that I have condemned what was done on ED???  Of course you did, but on par for your penchant for spin, you've decided that what I've said is something completely different than what I actually wrote.

The point is that the parents dont think they are doing anything wrong, but someone else does so that gives them the right to post their private information.  In the boat analogy you dont think you are doing anything wrong but an environmentalist may think you are so that gives them the right to post your private information publicly.



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[Anne Bonney]

This was the deal at ASR.

Is ASR the same as Academy at Sisters?

They had rules like, no sex, no running away or leaving the campus, no hitting,smoking etc.  If these rules were broken a few times the parents were contacted and asked to come pick up their kid.  this happened to one of the children in an earlier peer group.

I see you writing it, but have an incredibly difficult time believing it happened in any real capacity.   What I mean by that is that there was one.....ONE guy...that I remember at Straight that was "kicked out".  Ironically, he was one of the very few that actually DID have a drug problem.  I believe he later killed his mother, but I digress.  Ironically again.....I'm hearing parents saying that they're sending their kids to these places because they don't follow rules at home and that the program will ensure that they follow rules.  Isn't that at least part of the very reason for programs?  Defiant teens?  Hell, it's all over those "online assessments" that you see on practically EVERY teenhelp site.  Are you telling me that all a kid has to do to get out of a program is just break a few rules?  Really???  Sweet!!!

Yes, they'll tell potential marks (parents) pretty much anything they need to in order to get them to sign their kids up.  The reality is often VERY different.