Author Topic: Academy at Sisters (Read 70286 times)

Pile of Dead Kids · « **Reply #135 on:** July 05, 2010, 10:58:14 PM »

Straight link from the main page

I'm 99% confident that we're done here.

Joel · « **Reply #136 on:** July 05, 2010, 11:05:49 PM »

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Ursus · « **Reply #137 on:** July 05, 2010, 11:56:51 PM »

Quote from: "Joel"

Ursus I completely agree with you about the staff qualifications not posted on their website. The other thing I got a kick out of was the cheesy "Equine Assisted Therapy Program." :roflmao:

Yah, that "equine assisted therapy" is the latest rage in behav mod. ALL the up and coming programs are doing it, yada yada yada.

While I am sure that meaningful exchanges are taking place between the gals and the horsies, the chances of Academy at Sisters, or any other program jumping on that bandwagon, being meaningfully engaged in facilitating that exchange in an intentional fashion ... are pretty slim.

Pile of Dead Kids · « **Reply #138 on:** July 05, 2010, 11:59:12 PM »

Quote from: "Ursus"

While I am sure that meaningful exchanges are taking place between the gals and the horsies

You can find "meaningful exchanges" between girls and horses all over the Internet if you know where to look.

Joel · « **Reply #139 on:** July 06, 2010, 12:39:15 AM »

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Antigen · « **Reply #140 on:** July 06, 2010, 09:55:29 AM »

Hm. Wonder what the Sudweeks are up to these days?

Ursus · « **Reply #141 on:** July 06, 2010, 10:43:00 AM »

Quote from: "Joel"

The Academy of Sisters posted the "Financial benefits" but not all the staff names/qualifications. This was shady. A desperate parent would not be able to recognize this problem. People who worked in the industry would know what questions to ask {I hope} , if they were to send their child to a program but not desperate parents {a majority of the times}. The reality is the TTI will continue to capitalize off of desperate parents.

On Academy at Sisters' Loan Centers page, they suggest Clark Behavioral Health Financing along with a direct link to Clark's on-line loan application page, as well as CEDU's Friends of Families with Children in Crisis Foundation (see also previous post 'bout that). These are both organizations that are heavily vested in supporting the industry.

SUCK IT · « **Reply #142 on:** July 06, 2010, 10:59:05 AM »

Does anyone else find it funny that the extremists here think they can tell whether a treatment program is good or not just by looking at the website? Hey look, they do group therapy!! LGAT! LGAT! LGAT! :roflmao: They look for their codewords based on the fornits mythology of what constitutes 'abuse', of course to a fornits extremist any type of treatment is 'abuse', the term is so watered down here it has lost all meaning. Some fornits codewords to look out for are treatment, therapy, AA, horses, camping. Of course pictures of adolescents having fun also sets off alarm bells for these fornits experts. The irony of course is they dismiss Educational Consultants, people who visit facilities and actually talk to real people in the real world, as unable to help parents find safe treatment. But then they act like they can be EdCons just from looking at websites, and offering advice to a underage teenage girl to run away and hit the streets. This forum is a total joke. A stray parent here and there might get sucked into this mythology, but you have no impact on the 99.9% of parents who go to the professionals for advice.If you really wanted to help you'd start your own educational consultant group, but then you'd have to offer real solutions and act professional, something foreign to the extremists posting here.

Ursus · « **Reply #143 on:** July 06, 2010, 11:18:34 AM »

Quote from: "SUCK IT"

This forum is a total joke.

Then... why do you waste so much effort on trying to debunk everything anyone (other than Whooter) has to say, eh?

MorganMDC · « **Reply #144 on:** July 07, 2010, 01:38:32 AM »

Quote from: "Academy at Sisters"

How did this resolve?
thanks
How do you use the history command
thanks.

Hasn't yet. While it looks we could possibly find an alternative, the Academy is still an option. My mother went alone to tour the place today.

Quote from: "Antigen"

Well, haven't heard from Morgan or her parents in this thread in awhile now. Hope they didn't trick her into the car by telling her they were headed to a good local counselor.

That didn't happen, haha, luckily.

Joel · « **Reply #145 on:** July 07, 2010, 01:50:19 AM »

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Pile of Dead Kids · « **Reply #146 on:** July 07, 2010, 04:39:39 AM »

I have no idea what Joel's yammering about.

Quote from: "MorganMDC"

While it looks we could possibly find an alternative

What? Learning to tolerate each other is now a "possible alternative"? Thought that would be pretty much the default.

Quote from: "MorganMDC"

the Academy is still an option.

Use a small blade, and make sure it's sharp. Don't extend your arm too far when you stab; this makes grabbing or blocking it too easy. Instead keep it close to your body, rushing in like you're about to give the "escort" a fast hug, while keeping your *other* arm in front so they can grab that instead. Only at the very end do you deliver the hit, putting your whole body into it, preferably upwards under the ribcage, and then twist the blade as hard as you can. This is called the "prison yard rush" method and is incredibly difficult to stop.

(Yes, I did just tell you how to stab someone. It's the same advice I'd give when anyone's trying to hurt you- rapist, serial killer, someone trying to you send you to a shithole, whatever.)

Quote from: "MorganMDC"

My mother went alone to tour the place today.

Ooh, really? Maybe she can get on and tell us what they said- or if she actually went ahead and started looking at kids they didn't want her to look at, and talk to them, carefully looking in their eyes, when no one else was around...

North Korea does tours, too.

Pile of Dead Kids · « **Reply #147 on:** July 07, 2010, 05:47:15 AM »

Print this out and hand it to her, asking her to fill in every phrase they used on the "tour". See how many rows, columns, and diagonals she gets.

Awake · « **Reply #148 on:** July 07, 2010, 09:40:37 PM »

Quote from: "Awake"

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Awake"
To Morgan, and her parents, but especially you

I don’t know if this decision is final or not, but what I am hearing is that they might really be willing to work with you on a reasonable alternative. From what is being said there is a very common power struggle going on in the family dynamic. Everyone needs a sense of control over their lives, and if you are willing to give up a little of it, you may not lose it all. Your parents are expressing that this choice IS their last option based on your behavior, and so has become a situation where you are forcing them to force you to cooperate. If you are made to go to this program without resolving this power issue with your parents this vicious cycle might escalate in worse ways than you can imagine. You can’t ‘win’, you really can’t, and whatever alternative they are open to is a good one. I know you can’t just do away with any resentment or bitterness over what has been going on in your family, but if the control tactics come to the point where you have to go to this place under the current circumstances this might become a seething underlying issue that damages your family relationship beyond repair.

I heard one of your parents say they are not entirely right either, and maybe that makes it hard to submit to the choices they want to give you, but if you are willing to put the right and wrong aside for now and just do it you will avoid a far more painful experience in which you will have to submit to a situation you disagree with much more, and you will submit even if you have to learn to fake the most genuine of emotions. It is a unique kind of suffering that you truly do not want, much harder than what it will take for you if you give in now. It may even be better for you in the end as far as getting what you want out of your family relationship, at least you will maintain a position of more equal footing when you are working through things with them rather than being put at the bottom of the ladder. Someday you will find that you are going to want their support in your endeavors, and maybe even want them in your life as equals and friends, but if the situation gets to a point where you are put in a position of powerlessness it may be impossible to accept that support without also accepting their domination of you. You may get married someday, or accomplish things that you will want their blessing for. That blessing may always carry with it that denunciation of you.

I hope you all can give this one last chance to work it out. You may have to live with unresolved anger and it may be difficult to find a way to get along for awhile, but if you can turn things around now and get through it, IT WILL BE WORTH IT. You are always going to be a family, you will never be able to avoid that even if it becomes forever associated with animosity and interactions that disqualify each other. If you, Morgan, can’t make a really tough move to cooperate with your parents now, you may never come back from this.

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Very nicely stated, Awake. Morgan, you should consider those wise words and try to look at those as the best path to get you to age 18. If you can resolve this locally, working with your parents and with a counselor you will be better off.

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Thank you for your support. I just want to see this work out for the best.

I want to offer this out again if the idea is still being volleyed. No one wants to do this.

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MorganMDC · « **Reply #149 on:** July 09, 2010, 01:08:09 AM »

Well, it's official.
Just as an update, I'll post it.
My parents have decided on the Academy.
It's a go, though I have a while.
Though this forum seems to have given my parents - especially my father who found a place in Portland that's not a live-in, but my mother has decided it isn't an option... - things to think about, there is no escaping this end result.
I thank all of you for your help and insights, and if you find anything else, we'll check back here to look at it.

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