Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Academy at Sisters
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---No, thanks. There's nothing I'd like to discuss with you. My comments have nothing to do with parenting, they simpIy reflect your views on children and programs. I just want Morgan's folks to know where you're coming from, because you sure as hell will just be blowing smoke up their asses, quoting phony statistics and falsifying your own "success" story. It shouldn't bother you that I just post quotes of what you said. If it does, maybe you shouldn't have said it, but you did.
When you say children have no rights, it dovetails with your statements that you don't believe kids should have access to an abuse hotline independent of the facility to report any abuses (remember, you said they shouldn't have one because "the abuse hotline operator might talk dirty to the kids"). You stated they should be forced to report to their very own abusers, the program staff, which, of course, is pure lunacy. This is just one of many of your views I will illustrate as I see fit by supplying Morgan's parents with your prior statements.
Let's be real for a moment: You're not what you claim to be, and we here all know it, but they might need some help to figure it out. As I have explained before, if your comments and recruitment efforts lead to even one kid being abused at the hands of programs you promote here, it will be a very, very sad day, as it's completely preventable if people know what your true reason for being here is, a financial interest in the TBS industry, where you have claimed "the real money is."
So let's not play coy, shall we?
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I think that you have a sickness, Dysfunction Junction, read your own posts and your footer. It bugs you that I can speak openly about the good and bad sides of the industry, that my family had a good experience and your mind is set to speak only negative aspects of it.
If you feel children should have rights prior to the age of 18 and decide their own fate then you should take it up with the government. Dont take it out on every parent who shows up here trying to seek answers and derail each thread with your hatred. Lets have respect for Morgan and her parents and keep the conversation towards helping them make the right decision and providing them with information and insight from our own experiences.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Morgan's mom" ---There are always good and bad situations to everything in life. I'm not that BLIND as to not be aware of the history with some of the programs out there. My husband and I both had the delightful pleasure of experiencing the possibility of being sent to a program in our youth. We, too, went through many of the things my daughter is going through now. We also know the path she is on and where it has the potential to go. We are fortunate to be here today to tell about it. I guess God had future plans for us - there are many scenarios we got ourselves into that could have ended our lives along time ago.
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Just curious... which program or programs might that be? There were certainly fewer around during that time...
Academy at Sisters:
Heres the link”
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29113&p=352277&hilit=academy+sisters#p352277
The closed program discussed on that thread, Mount Bachelor Academy, operated from 1988 to 2010(could be off by a year or so) and is a CEDU spin off just like Academy at Sisters. So, it was in operation about 20 years before it was shut down for, among other things, forcing all residents to suffer and participate in ritualistic sexual abuse. (Sorry. I can't think of a better term for MBA's brand of organized sexual torture)That's despite abuse being reported since its inception. Does that give you an idea of what these organizations can get away with?
And to Joel and photoman: please do not comment on this thread if you cannot resist allowing John D. Reuben to dominate this conversation by going down tangents. As you should know, he had two sons. One now deceased. Alternatively, on the off-chance we have misidentified him, he can in no way be expected to report any dealings with any young adult in a straightforward manner when pertaining to the teen abduction industry. Leave that line of inquiry to the one of the thousands of threads you embark on focusing on that subject.
Troll Control:
More on the Academy at Sisters:
Academy at Sisters on Secret Prisons for Teens.
Many more links from Secret Prisons For Teens on their page.
Another Fornits topic here. Thread links to HEAL and FICA which both classify it as "suspected of being abusive" and list many utems of concern about their program.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---No, thanks. There's nothing I'd like to discuss with you. My comments have nothing to do with parenting, they simpIy reflect your views on children and programs. I just want Morgan's folks to know where you're coming from, because you sure as hell will just be blowing smoke up their asses, quoting phony statistics and falsifying your own "success" story. It shouldn't bother you that I just post quotes of what you said. If it does, maybe you shouldn't have said it, but you did.
When you say children have no rights, it dovetails with your statements that you don't believe kids should have access to an abuse hotline independent of the facility to report any abuses (remember, you said they shouldn't have one because "the abuse hotline operator might talk dirty to the kids"). You stated they should be forced to report to their very own abusers, the program staff, which, of course, is pure lunacy. This is just one of many of your views I will illustrate as I see fit by supplying Morgan's parents with your prior statements.
Let's be real for a moment: You're not what you claim to be, and we here all know it, but they might need some help to figure it out. As I have explained before, if your comments and recruitment efforts lead to even one kid being abused at the hands of programs you promote here, it will be a very, very sad day, as it's completely preventable if people know what your true reason for being here is, a financial interest in the TBS industry, where you have claimed "the real money is."
So let's not play coy, shall we?
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I think that you have a sickness, Dysfunction Junction, read your own posts and your footer. It bugs you that I can speak openly about the good and bad sides of the industry, that my family had a good experience and your mind is set to speak only negative aspects of it.
If you feel children should have rights prior to the age of 18 and decide their own fate then you should take it up with the government. Dont take it out on every parent who shows up here trying to seek answers and derail each thread with your hatred. Lets have respect for Morgan and her parents and keep the conversation towards helping them make the right decision and providing them with information and insight from our own experiences.
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Again, my aim is to keep kids from being abused at programs you promote here. I don't particularly care about your opinion of me. I have been nothing but respectful to Morgan and her family, so, of course, I'm not "taking anything out on them." Like I said, even your "good experience" is phony. Here's a quote of a moderator's comments about your revisionist family history:
--- Quote from: "Deborah" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---This is the last refuge for someone caught blatantly lying so many times that he has no other excuse but "They altered my posts!" What a LOSER.
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:rofl:
That's about the size of it. He hasn't a leg to stand on in an honest debate, so he resorts to attacks and false allegations. I could provide links to many posts that I would've loved to dump. They're still there.
The only one 'editing' Who's posts is Who. Remember the one in which he stated his daughter split and didn't talk to him for 2 years. He apparently forgot he posted that back when he was anon- before he picked a user name. When I linked to it, he promptly deleted it.
Wah, wah, wah. :cry2:
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So, once more, if you're not proud of what you have posted here, you shouldn't have posted those items. My simply pointing them out is not the problem. The problem is that you said it and now you have to own it. Take some responsibility for your actions. You are the one doing a disservice to Morgan and her family by being dishonest, not me. You are a gigantic phony and they have a right to know you're in it for the money.
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