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elanasshole:
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--- Quote from: "The Elan Reporter" ---To finish answering your question inculcated about the ring.
The ring was for residents who either commited acts of violence, like attack another resident. That was the only purpose it was for and the staff started abusing it by using it as an excuse over time for alot less infractions committed by a resident. Corner people who throw stuff arounf the room, or kicked out a window, or ripped down production were sent into the ring. There was once this girl who got booked in the dorms many namy times on a daily basis and the rest of the females grew tired of it, so one day staff decided to throw her in the ring, so that every female in the dorm that wanted to get in the ring with her could. Again, this was yet another example of abuse of power by staff. The girl who disrupted the dorm at night was a minor that did not want to be at elan and wanted elan to discharge her because she was not 18 and could sign out. So forcing her to face 15 other women in a ring would be something I would expect from a street gang, not a self help program like elan. The staff do not give two fucks about any resident when they are not being funded to keep them there. If a resident were to run away from there, elan would accept all collect calls made by the runaway at any given time of the day, and convince them to give themselves up all in the name of money. Hell, they wont even allow former residents that were nongrads or not to set foot on their property to visit elan, all because they are no longer being paid to talk to them.
Elan is not a program to help troubled teens, yet it is a place where people learn to become more vindictive and mind fuck those who oppose you. There is a hidden message in elans purpose and that is "Do what you want to that is not right, but do not get caught at doing so". Elan teaches you to be more sneaky and more vindictive towards people by getting back at those by narcing them out, or getting them in trouble for anything.
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:shamrock: :shamrock:
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Very accurate portrayal of the evolution of the ring. Marty felt it could be used in just about any circumstance and made this known in many Director meeting. Marty was my Director at E-5 and I was talking with him one day about some guilt I never copped to, (this was after I had graduated and was staff) I told him that a resident had stepped in front of me as a provoking jester after a football game in the kitchen at Elan 3. We (E-5) had just beaten E-3/7 and this guy was pissed (natural), well I told him, "to get the fuck out of my way" but he would not so I just moved by him, well we exchanged a few more words and that was it. Well after I told Marty this, he came back with well I would have thrown the both of you in the ring and shot you down. I looked at him and said why, " it was after a football game tempers were flaring and nothing happened but some words". He did not care. Marty was a stubborn sick fuck who by his own admission really, "did not care" if it made any sense to put someone in the ring or not. Not that in the rational world did it ever rise to the merits.
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Danny
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You are being 100% truthful Danny? Did you forget any details?
DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "The Elan Reporter" ---To finish answering your question inculcated about the ring.
The ring was for residents who either commited acts of violence, like attack another resident. That was the only purpose it was for and the staff started abusing it by using it as an excuse over time for alot less infractions committed by a resident. Corner people who throw stuff arounf the room, or kicked out a window, or ripped down production were sent into the ring. There was once this girl who got booked in the dorms many namy times on a daily basis and the rest of the females grew tired of it, so one day staff decided to throw her in the ring, so that every female in the dorm that wanted to get in the ring with her could. Again, this was yet another example of abuse of power by staff. The girl who disrupted the dorm at night was a minor that did not want to be at elan and wanted elan to discharge her because she was not 18 and could sign out. So forcing her to face 15 other women in a ring would be something I would expect from a street gang, not a self help program like elan. The staff do not give two fucks about any resident when they are not being funded to keep them there. If a resident were to run away from there, elan would accept all collect calls made by the runaway at any given time of the day, and convince them to give themselves up all in the name of money. Hell, they wont even allow former residents that were nongrads or not to set foot on their property to visit elan, all because they are no longer being paid to talk to them.
Elan is not a program to help troubled teens, yet it is a place where people learn to become more vindictive and mind fuck those who oppose you. There is a hidden message in elans purpose and that is "Do what you want to that is not right, but do not get caught at doing so". Elan teaches you to be more sneaky and more vindictive towards people by getting back at those by narcing them out, or getting them in trouble for anything.
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--- Quote ---DannyB II wrote:
Very accurate portrayal of the evolution of the ring. Marty felt it could be used in just about any circumstance and made this known in many Director meeting. Marty was my Director at E-5 and I was talking with him one day about some guilt I never copped to, (this was after I had graduated and was staff) I told him that a resident had stepped in front of me as a provoking jester after a football game in the kitchen at Elan 3. We (E-5) had just beaten E-3/7 and this guy was pissed (natural), well I told him, "to get the fuck out of my way" but he would not so I just moved by him, well we exchanged a few more words and that was it. Well after I told Marty this, he came back with well I would have thrown the both of you in the ring and shot you down. I looked at him and said why, " it was after a football game tempers were flaring and nothing happened but some words". He did not care. Marty was a stubborn sick fuck who by his own admission really, "did not care" if it made any sense to put someone in the ring or not. Not that in the rational world did it ever rise to the merits.
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Danny
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You are being 100% truthful Danny? Did you forget any details?
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As much as I could from 30 years ago but ya I do remember that conversation very well.
Danny
P.S. Please make sure we are being real here with our questions. I am not interested in playing games, Thank You.
clitoritis:
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DannyB II:
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Did you ever see Martin L Kruglik, Joe Ricci or Jeffrey Gottleib do the following:
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--- Quote --- 1: Beat students
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Danny wrote:
Yes, Joe Ricci and Peter McCann
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NO none....
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All of them.
--- Quote ---4. Verbally abuse staff
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Joe Ricci and Peter McCann.
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