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Two girls missing from SUWS
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There is no law against running away if you are under aged in this country so there was no need for the kids to get a lawyer or be protected from being thrown in jail.
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Not true. Ordinarily, if you run away, and you get caught, you can be thrown in juvie.
It depends on what your parents want done with you. The law maintains that you should be home or wherever your parents have contracted out for you to be. If you refuse, it could be cell-time for you, baby!
Anne Bonney:
I have a friend that ran from Straight, got a lawyer and went before the judge. That's how he finally got out of Straight. Kids do have the right to due process....even in this - **cough** - "therapeutic" - **cough** setting. Hell, they even have the right to petition the court to refuse chemo, if they so choose.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There is no law against running away if you are under aged in this country so there was no need for the kids to get a lawyer or be protected from being thrown in jail.
--- End quote ---
Not true. Ordinarily, if you run away, and you get caught, you can be thrown in juvie.
It depends on what your parents want done with you. The law maintains that you should be home or wherever your parents have contracted out for you to be. If you refuse, it could be cell-time for you, baby!
--- End quote ---
You have a point. They may hold you in juvenile until your fate is determined. But runaways are mainly returned to their parents custody. I can also see if the parents are not taking care of the kids and they are chronic runaways then they would be held and their fate would be run through the court system if social services felt the need or the kids made a case for themselves that they shouldnt be sent back or they were running from an unsafe environment.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I have a friend that ran from Straight, got a lawyer and went before the judge. That's how he finally got out of Straight. Kids do have the right to due process....even in this - **cough** - "therapeutic" - **cough** setting. Hell, they even have the right to petition the court to refuse chemo, if they so choose.
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Your friend was lucky. He got a lawyer. Kids that don't know any better, don't know that they have to ask for one to get one. That may not be how it's supposed to work, but that is ... how it often works, at least as it has in the past. This I do know all too well.
There are, to be sure, local and state differences. The kids in Pennsylvania may or may not have been able to get access to legal counsel, but it didn't seem to make much of a difference there.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I have a friend that ran from Straight, got a lawyer and went before the judge. That's how he finally got out of Straight. Kids do have the right to due process....even in this - **cough** - "therapeutic" - **cough** setting. Hell, they even have the right to petition the court to refuse chemo, if they so choose.
--- End quote ---
Your friend was lucky. He got a lawyer. Kids that don't know any better, don't know that they have to ask for one to get one. That may not be how it's supposed to work, but that is ... how it often works, at least as it has in the past. This I do know all too well.
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Oh, absolutely!! More often than not, when kids ran, the cops would just bring them right back. That's why it's imperative to have the abuse hotline phone numbers posted in all programs to inform kids that they do, indeed, have rights.
--- Quote ---There are, to be sure, local and state differences. The kids in Pennsylvania may or may not have been able to get access to legal counsel, but it didn't seem to make much of a difference there.
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Yep. It's deplorable.
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