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Two girls missing from SUWS
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There is no law against running away if you are under aged in this country so there was no need for the kids to get a lawyer or be protected from being thrown in jail.
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Not true. Ordinarily, if you run away, and you get caught, you can be thrown in juvie.
It depends on what your parents want done with you. The law maintains that you should be home or wherever your parents have contracted out for you to be. If you refuse, it could be cell-time for you, baby!
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You have a point. They may hold you in juvenile until your fate is determined. But runaways are mainly returned to their parents custody. I can also see if the parents are not taking care of the kids and they are chronic runaways then they would be held and their fate would be run through the court system if social services felt the need or the kids made a case for themselves that they shouldnt be sent back or they were running from an unsafe environment.
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Involving and relying on Social Services is a real mixed bag, IMO. There have been times when DHS has done the right thing, as was recently the case with Mount Bachelor Academy in Oregon. More often than not, however, too much depends on how much of a potential thorn in DHS's side the parents in question can be. It's substantially more difficult for them to make a case against a happily married, financially well-off couple than it is to target economically disadvantaged single parents. My guess is that folks who can afford to send their kids to SUWS of the Carolinas are less likely to be in the latter category.
Ursus:
Some Comments on the above article:
Posted by karljohanson on May 10, 2010 - 3:19 a.m.
I am happy that they were found safe.But I am concerned because knowing the type of wilderness program they were detained in, they were not provided with legal representation as they would have if they had committed a crime.Most of the so-called clients or detainees, which are a better term, are either tricked by their parents to such program or simply pulled out of their bed at night by private youth transport firms and transported to the wilderness camps in handcuffs and shackles on the orders of their parents.How come that criminals are better protected that an ordinary teenagers, who may only have problems as little as an ordinary depression or being picky at the dinner table?What kind of society are we, when we send a message to our kids that you have to commit a crime in order to secure legal protection for you?As I stated above I volunteer for a NGO where we track records of possible abuse and deaths among minors in treatment. Every year we must acknowledge that we once again can observe how teenagers lost their lives in a treatment aimed to "treat" them. Every year we also most acknowledge that some cannot live on with the memories of the so-called treatment and choose to end their lives prematurely.When will it stop? We hope that 2010 will be the turning point, but as this story show, it will most likely not happen.My heart goes out for these girls. May they one day be able to return to their families safe and hopefully without so many scars from the "treatment".Posted by joycon1 on May 11, 2010 - 5:29 p.m.
I agree with you and I think that teens should have a legal advocate who must be reported to by these programs.[/list]
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Anne Bonney:
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Posted by karljohanson on May 10, 2010 - 3:19 a.m.
How come that criminals are better protected that an ordinary teenagers, who may only have problems as little as an ordinary depression or being picky at the dinner table?
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Because kids don't have rights!!! ~~ guess Who
Oscar:
Karl Johanson is one of ours. Mr. Overgaard liked his post so much that he put it on our blog.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Some Comments on the above article:
Posted by karljohanson on May 10, 2010 - 3:19 a.m.
I am happy that they were found safe.But I am concerned because knowing the type of wilderness program they were detained in, they were not provided with legal representation as they would have if they had committed a crime.Most of the so-called clients or detainees, which are a better term, are either tricked by their parents to such program or simply pulled out of their bed at night by private youth transport firms and transported to the wilderness camps in handcuffs and shackles on the orders of their parents.How come that criminals are better protected that an ordinary teenagers, who may only have problems as little as an ordinary depression or being picky at the dinner table?What kind of society are we, when we send a message to our kids that you have to commit a crime in order to secure legal protection for you?As I stated above I volunteer for a NGO where we track records of possible abuse and deaths among minors in treatment. Every year we must acknowledge that we once again can observe how teenagers lost their lives in a treatment aimed to "treat" them. Every year we also most acknowledge that some cannot live on with the memories of the so-called treatment and choose to end their lives prematurely.When will it stop? We hope that 2010 will be the turning point, but as this story show, it will most likely not happen.My heart goes out for these girls. May they one day be able to return to their families safe and hopefully without so many scars from the "treatment".[/list]
Posted by joycon1 on May 11, 2010 - 5:29 p.m.
I agree with you and I think that teens should have a legal advocate who must be reported to by these programs.[/list]
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The fornits poster errrrr I mean (excuse me) <cough> "independent comment" was telling. The.... being sent to SUWS in shackles for being a picky eater added a nice touch and was priceless.
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