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DannyB II:
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--- Quote ---Then, why are you here?
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That is not a reason. I asked why you were here. If you feel that there is such an abundance of former Elan residents, who are actually worthy of your attention, and the people here aren't, then why do you consistently post here?
Because I can and with that right I converse with who I want to.
There is no law that say that everyone who has been in Elan for certain amount of time, has to take up space in Fornits, and the reason I say take up space, is because nothing much seems to come out of you
Really and here I thought I was contributing to fornits archives.
... as far as I ve seen anyone..
It seems like you just like to disagree with people.. That is my perception.
There you go with that perception thing again, please put it away before you get injured or something.
( Just figured I d say that b4 you point it out to me.)
Ha, ha.... ha, ha...ha, ha..
You come here simply to evade questions?
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Only the disingenuous ones.
--- Quote ---Right. So any question from a pissed off person is a false question?
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Not exactly I would not put it that way. I do not believe they are pissed off, most here from Elan who post I have answered there questions. Now they are just playing out a latent hostility that I can not cure with more answers.
--- Quote ---They're trying to trick and deceive you Danny? Is that your claim?
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No I don't think that, I just think they are being disingenuous.
--- Quote ---They are fakes?
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No!!!!! But you are......
--- Quote ---Perhaps, they are really not mad about what happened to him? This is all just a big act on their part? [/color]
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Now why would you say that about them, there goes that perception again....lol.
Well, maybe you are just percieving the questions to be disengenuine... That doesn t mean that it is necessarily reality.. C'mon, man.. get with the program.. I thought you knew these things.
Very witty aren't you, I bet your very charming also.
--- Quote ---Well, I'll sleep well, tonight, knowing that I have your endorsement, Danny.
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Try not to be cute, OK.
Respectful? Why the hell should they be respectful? They're pissed off. You ought answer their questions now. They re the victims
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No you are not the only victims, your arrogance does not appeal to me either.
I'll make a note of that, dick.
Not very polite, please refrain from commenting on my anatomy.
--- Quote ---Please, re-read my comment. I called you a dick... not a twat.
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I asked you not to be cute....shitty boy.
Your not owed anything.
Indeed, I am not.
However, what I meant was.. If I were you, I d be willingly answer questions, now. Because the tables are gonna turn someday...
and I would guess that it is probably gonna be in your lifetime.
Well the tables are always turning son, so get used to it. It is called "change" the only inevitable in life.
--- Quote ---You're kidding me, right?
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No I would not try to manipulate you.
I told you already your questions as your motives are disingenuous. I answer questions all the time with folks from Elan and elsewhere just not on this site. Nobody here yet has earned my trust.
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--- Quote ---] You're smug. You are very smug.
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No I would not call it smug.
--- Quote ---Innocent teenagers were terrorized and border-line tortured without purpose or reason.
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Stop with all the drama this is where you start to smell of disingenuous.
--- Quote ---It was done as sport, and if you were there, you know that.
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No I do not know that and (you absolutely don't know). You have no idea of what your talking of, this conversation
is starting to smell like you "shitty boy".
--- Quote ---Society will not turn a blind eye to this forever.
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Who is saying "Society" is turning a blind eye, you. Society also has a "perception".
--- Quote ---When the tables have turned, and they will, will you still be so smug?
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Well since I wasn't smug before, NO. I told you young one tables have always been turning, nothing stays the same.
Remember perception.
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--- Quote ---If you think that they should have to kiss your ass, in order to get answers, well, then that is fine. You are allowed to think that. But you can t think that, and act like you are walking on some higher moral ground, at the same time.
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I did not think that was my reality. But your entitled to your perceptions.
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Again, why are you here? Are you just trying to prove to yourself that you can withstand the scrutiny? Can you see how your prescence here, along with your way of no affect, can be bothering people?
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Like I said that is your perception it does not make it a reality. I am here because I am a survivor and a former employer. As far as affecting me well I am sorry it is not happening they way you want it.
No.. Not really my perception. More of a curiosity. I was just wondering.
Well stop it doesn't help your overall mentality. Really now.....lol.
--- Quote ---What are you trying to tell me, Danny? That I am stupid?
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Well if the shoe fits......
--- Quote ---Honestly, Danny, you are in their RING now, and I think they are being pretty nice about the whole thing.
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STFU...please.
and here I am, trying to be nice in my post.. and respect the new fornits rules ( I know.. I did just call you a dick, but you started..LOL)
STFU....again, PLEASE.
--- Quote ---I don't know much about ya man, but I know that you are smug, and I know that there was something that I didn t like about ya from the first thing I read from you. You are posting on survivor forum, openly admitting that you were a counselor, and acting like your shit don't stink.
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Isn't that amazing that you don't get to kick me around based on some false information you have had stored up in your head (it is called latent) for all these years.
I would like to respond to this statement, but I have no clue what you are talking about.
1. Who says, I can t kick ya around? Maybe I'm just not trying to.
2. If I couldn t kick you around, why would that be so amazing?
3. What latent have I have stored in my head for all these years. Are you saying that I think I have information about you, personally? Are you saying that the infromation I have about Elan is false?
STFU #3 times over now.
--- Quote ---You don't actually like to answer anything, do you? Well, I guess it is easier to tell people to shut up.
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Yes I do like to answer alot of questions, I am doing it now with you. More then I give most folks here. I don't tell "people" to shut up just "shitty boys".
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--- Quote ---Do you really think that people wanna see your stupid clover after every post? They don't. They are not interested in your self-promotion.
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Well I don't know what to say other then "Too Bad", shitty boy.
Shitty Boy. That's a good one. Maybe you are right.. Maybe I should just back off. Perhaps, I am nothing more then a shitty boy..
Thank you for understanding.
Again, I ve been trying to avoid the whole personal attack thing.. But it's cool.. See, most of what I want to know about ya, I am learning right now, and you are losing your cool a bit, Daniel .
Wow!!!! are you now learning about perception. Your growing up before my eyes.
--- Quote --- I got more intelligence in my pinky, then you got in your entire being,
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I said I do not want to talk about anatomy. "My Being" is my spirit and my spirit is huge, finite. Your ego is large try to be humble.
--- Quote ---so do me a favor and stop acting so condescending.
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I would like to do you favors but it is not condescending that your seeing it is someone older then you.
They want information.[/quote]
They, who is "they" ???????? You don't want information as in cleansing to the soul, you want dirt for your angry hole.
--- Quote ---Well, I am a shitty boy, and shitty boys need to keep their holes dirty.. Kinda comes with territory.
Ya it does......you smell.
--- Quote ---You're a bonafide idiot.
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Com'on be fair and don't stoop to attacking, shitty boy.
--- Quote ---They want an apology.
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You got it, you have always had it.
Honestly, I think that means something.. I should probably let ya know, that I never went there, so you do not need to apologise to me, but i do think it means something that you said that.
Oh I gon'na cry....
--- Quote ---Okay, so first say you apologize, and then you come back with this.
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I thought your comment above was a facetious. I apologize.
--- Quote ---You fraudulent fuck.
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No have never been that.[/color]
--- Quote ---You ain't got an oz. of legitimate remorse in you. You're just a cruel dickhead,
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Well I am sorry this is all you see, because there is so much more. Don't you get vicious when your
little ole feeling are hurt. That is why I call you "shitty boy" because it doesn't take much to bring
this out.
--- Quote ---who will only talk to people who still understand that you are the counselor.[/color]
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Now this is just silly.
--- Quote --- If you are trying to vindicate yourself, well, here's your opportunity, right here in Fornits.
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Son grow up please there is no vindication anywhere here on fornits.
Again, this is why I am asking you why you are here. You talk so bad about this "place" but ya keep coming around.
No again you have a hard time understanding, I like fornits it is the Elanians here I don't trust.
--- Quote ---Dumbass! Doesn t it make a little more sense that you should be earning their trust?
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No, why in heck would I want to earn trust from folks that I don't trust at all and "WHY AM I TALKING WITH YOU".
This is it, till next time.
I am already there have been there for almost 30 years.
My purpose here as I always said is a personal one that few know.
Well that is your journey here I would assume.
I didn't write that. You did. But, I suppose you do know a thing or two about perceptions.
Hence, mystery-man ;)
--- Quote ---You seem like you are a possibly a decent guy... Think about it mystery-man.
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I am a very decent man, Thanks. No mystery,if you had read my posts as you said you did, I wonder though.
Paul
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I read a few.. Just a few..
Danny[/quote][/quote]
Somebody left their shamrock at home....
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There we go!
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Bye Bye
OLe` danny boy the pipes the pipes are calling...............oboyo.
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--- Quote ---I'm glad you are having such a good time, Danny.
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ALWAYS.............
Paul St. John[/color][/quote]
P.S.
Paul if you want to have a real sincere conversation with me then PM me and I will talk.
Danny
Inculcated:
I don’t know if this discussion is going anywhere … other than the same coy little bread crumb chase from thread to thread that’s gone on for months. For now, you guys all seem to enjoy having it so..fare thee well.
The smilies and tangled misuse of the quote feature make most of the exchanges barely legible. I’m bothered that I bothered to squint my way through it only to find little more than more of the same.
No matter how much resizing and highlighting is used it doesn’t make the ^ content informative.
And Quit NAMECALLING other posters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or take your :shamrock: etc. to the drama box
Paul St. John:
--- Quote ---Me:Innocent teenagers were terrorized and border-line tortured without purpose or reason.
You:Stop with all the drama this is where you start to smell of disingenuous.
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I think this is where you and me differ. I don't think I am being dramatic- not even a little. I am stating facts. What I wrote above is true.
I mean the actual experience that people went through, was dramatic, and yes, absolutely, definitely, also, traumatic. If a realistic movie were to be made about it, I think it would be classified as a drama, and possibly even horror. ( and I don't think that I am exxagerating there.If you do, perhaps, you should remind yourself)
Okay, now what I wrote there is very clear. If you think I am wrong, you can tell me why, but if you have to come back, with something witty, or funny, or evasive, then you are really not worth talking to.
--- Quote ---Me: It was done as sport, and if you were there, you know that.
You: No I do not know that and (you absolutely don't know). You have no idea of what your talking of, this conversation
is starting to smell like you "shitty boy".
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I do know it, Danny. I know that it was done as sport. I am certain of it.
Well, that s about it for me.. As is often the case, I am not even sure how I got into this conversation. I can argue with you 'til I am blue in the face, but even if I win, what have I won? particularly when this has become little more then a childish battle of the wits, and we keep moving forward into new territory, without even finishing what we were originally talking about.
You think that my feelings were coming out of me.. There we go with the perception thing again. (no pun intended) Actually I was very complacent, when responding to you.. and it actually required effort to respond the way I did. I really don't care if you think I am a shitty boy..
or if you tell me that I smell..
and honestly, I am not even sure what think of ya. I know that you are a bit of a bullshit artist, but most people are, particularly in certain circumstances, so what business is that of mine, really?
I'm not sure that I would classify you as a bad guy. And even if you were, I am not the Fornits police.
All, I know is that you rubbed me the wrong way, personally, but that happens in life.
I learned about Elan inadvertantly.. It became something that concerned me, inadverently. In the end, all I really want.. All I really care about, is that the truth come out in full color, and that the place no longer exist. I want society, to fully take the side of the victims.
That's my hope.. To what extent, I want to have anything to do with that coming about, I am not sure. All I know is, I always find myself coming back to this forum, just like out of nowhere.
I also know, that I do, in fact, like the idea of battling and exposing a counselor.
Paul St. John
DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---I don’t know if this discussion is going anywhere … other than the same coy little bread crumb chase from thread to thread that’s gone on for months. For now, you guys all seem to enjoy having it so..fare thee well.
The smilies and tangled misuse of the quote feature make most of the exchanges barely legible. I’m bothered that I bothered to squint my way through it only to find little more than more of the same.
No matter how much resizing and highlighting is used it doesn’t make the ^ content informative.
And Quit NAMECALLING other posters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or take your :shamrock: etc. to the drama box
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:shamrock: :shamrock:
Inculcate we have been here before, mind your own business. OK. Don't read it.
Danny
Paul St. John:
--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---No matter how much resizing and highlighting is used it doesn’t make the ^ content informative.
And Quit NAMECALLING other posters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or take your :shamrock: etc. to the drama box
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No, it does not.. It is only an attempts on our parts to make clear who is writing what..
Anyway.. It's true nothing much of purpose came out of it. At best, it may have entertaining exchange to some.. But if you're looking for entertainment, that is what the Elan Reporter is for,
I would like to say that his posts, completely hurt both Fornits, and the cause of exposing Elan, because who people who find that, when researching, simply can t take any of it seriously. It is crude, and makes the victims, look like they might be the wrong ones.. Just a bunch of childish people complaining about having to grow up> Of course that is not the case. I am onl;y saying that it can appear this way.
Anyway, as much as I would like to say all that, I cant. Because I think, while some of the humor is just too childish, most of it is fucking hysterical. I actually get a kick out of reading it. Also, it's got a lot of truth and intelligence mingled throughout, and is extremely creative.
But clearly, there needs to be some real content here, and mine and danny's conversation, is not that.
Paul St. John
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