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are there any success stories? (repost from cache)

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Matt C. Hoffman:
Anne , I know exactly what you mean ....It took a long  time to shake off the mindfuck (no other word for it ) and to be able to put the hellholes that spawned this stuff in their proper perspectives.

I am very glad you made it.  And nice to meet you finally.

Peace

Matt

Anne Bonney:
You as well, Matt.  :seg2:

DannyB II:

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residents that have successfully put elan in its properspective,  and consider themselves a success . I am willing to bet that there are quite a few  folks that don't credit any cult program with their success,(like elan)

This was one of the lost threads that I was talking about ,and I am glad the it has been found.

Anne you are most correct.( great letter btw from Shapiro to his daughter)

Peace

Matt
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:shamrock:
I believe there are many. I have read there stories on various sites, talked with old friends who know of others who are doing well. They got better just like we did, we just have not met them yet. It is not all gloom and doom...lol
Danny
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I think that's the key.  They're successful in spite of it, not because of it.
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:shamrock:  :shamrock:
No some of the principles that Elan was trying to teach did work for me in life. I also am alive today because I went to Elan. Why???? I stopped shooting dope, drinking outrageously and being a criminal. I was on my way to committing even more crimes that could have got me killed at that time in my life. Most of the staff and Directors did nothing to help your right but just being there away from my old haunts helped. Though there were some staff and Directors who helped me Wendy Freeman, Ken Steer, Rick Rosenhaus, Louie Ginsberg, Ed Friedman and most of his staff at E-5 in '75. See I have a hard time relating with alot of folks here because of different backgrounds and circumstances. Elan was actually better then juvie and my home really. So I sucked it up played the game and got out of the house as much as I could.
Very sick set of circumstances but these were the cards I was dealt at the time. Some of us had no good choices being children.
Do I  have empathy for others of course I do. I watched the horrific abuses that went on there I just tried to block it out and when they allowed me to drive, I drove everywhere and stayed out as long as I could.
Danny

DannyB II:

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I don't understand your reaction bossy I'm not saying I liked Elan or condoned anything they did. What they did was awful and abusive. I 'm saying we all had are ways of dealing with the abuse at Elan I had a opportunity to get out of the house and I took it. Same thing at home left at a young age the abuse was awful and Juvie same thing. As a matter of fact I went from juvie to Elan they let my parents take me. So no, don't misunderstand what I'm saying please but alot of us had more shit going on then just Elan back when we were children. I had to worry about not going back home so I had to wait it out until I turned 18 so I did not have to. Like I said I played the cards I was dealt. One other thing that sucked is why the hell should I have even had to tap dance that much as a kid to stay away from violent situations. So it is not only Elan on my mind at times it is the parents who are fucked up then make a even more fucked decision by sending you to these rat holes. Then institutions who abuse young people juvie, mental hospitals ect... So it is sad when I say Elan was better then all the choices I had at 16 yrs old, just be grateful you weren't in my shoes. All my decisions sucked but I was looking to survive and Elan seemed the most viable option. I don't know what would have happened if the violence of Elan would have come my way. I probably would have killed someone or myself because I had all I could take at that time.
Danny
Danny

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