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Offline Gentlestormi_

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Old News via John Hill former Attorney Generals Story
« on: January 05, 2010, 06:35:49 PM »
Old News:

starts on page 104 of John Hill's book:
"John Hill for the State of Texas: My Years as Attorney General"


http://books.google.com/books?id=DL_7D4 ... &q=&f=true


On page 108 John Hill reveals something in his book here that I did not realize or connect until the past week. Roloff day care facility in Corpus Christi had been licensed by the State of Texas all along. My obvious question was, then why did he fight licensing the girls home so intensely? John Hill presents some thoughts on how he figures Roloff reasoned. I found it vastly interesting, that his Day Care that he ran in Corpus Christi had been licensed by the State of Texas the whole time he had been fighting to license his children homes. Why such an intense stance against Oversight in the homes? Park Avenue Day School had been licensed by the DPW for 20 years prior to Roloffs heated, intense, long heavy and costly years of battling the state of Texas so he did not have to submit to oversight in the homes. What a curious and to me, a glaring curiosity that stands out.
At any rate, the entire account of John Hill's encounters with Lester Roloff was very interesting and thought provoking to read. I am glad he added it to his book, it is helpful to me personally.

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Re: Old News via John Hill former Attorney Generals Story
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 05:52:29 PM »
Roloff Homes residence for girls was under siege by the Attorney General of Texas who wanted the facility shut down because of continuing reports of abuse.  The Day Care center in Corpus Christi was eligible for food stamps and TNAF funding.  When the Attorney General of Texas told parents that he was going to shut the girls residence down, parents demanded the remainder of their money back from Roloff Homes  and their children returned to them.  The parents had signed contracts with Lester Roloff for their children's care and not all the payments had been paid.  Thus when the order came through from the Texas AG that he would not force the parents to pay what was still due on the contracts -  there was a show down. Lester Roloff claimed that these were legally binding contracts and he deserved to be paid the full amount even in the face of being shut down for child abuse by the Texas AG.   Lester Roloff refused to return the children.  During this time there was significant financial distress on Roloff and it is probable that he utilized resources from the Roloff Day Care center to help in the shortfall including their access to federal funding of TNAF food subsidies.  These co-mingled funds which are originally derived from taxpayer state and federal funds were used to help feed the children in residential treatment and day care facilities.  Only licensed and inspected facilities were receiving food stamp and TNAF food subsidies during this showdown with the Texas Attorney General.

As for the reason for Roloff's resistance to licensing and inspection -  this facility took girls who were pregnant or whose families thought they would become pregnant.  Roloff's methods to keep the teens under his control was gaining considerable criticism from civil rights activists and women's rights advocates.

In Dallas Texas in 1998 two boys had filed they had been sexually molested by a staff member who was a convicted drug trafficker. After many reports of child abuse at Teen Centers nationwide, the Director of Teen Challenge San Antonio, received a letter from TCADA stating that the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) had determined that residents of Teen Challenge centers in Texas are no longer eligible to receive food stamps because the centers were not state licensed or inspected.

The San Antonio Teen Challenge center admitted that it depended on the food stamps for nearly half its annual food budget. Teen Challenge also claimed that federal food stamp regulations hindering men and women who are working to overcome addictions at Teen Challenge centers in four states. Reports kept surfacing that the food purchased with the food stamps was being sold on the black market and children in the Teen Challenge Centers fed nothing but water, white bread and peanut butter.

In most Teen Challenge centers food stamp money provides a majority of their funding. Those in child protective services were hopeful that this denial of food stamps would finally force them to be licensed, inspected and regulated so that the safety of the children could be assured. In several states, including Massachusetts and Vermont, officials halted benefits to Teen Challenge clients because the programs were not formally recognized by state officials, and because clients were turning their Food Stamps over to administrators of the treatment program. The coupons were pooled together to buy groceries for those who live in dormitory-style housing for 18 months during their treatment. Thus through the actions of the federal USDA would attempt to protect the human rights and body integrity of children in the care of Teen Challenge facilities.

The threatened cutoff of food stamps to Teen Challenge threatened to shut down Teen Challenge centers in Oregon, Florida, and Massachusetts. The Boston field Office for the USDA's Food and Nutrition Service (FNS) shut down food stamps to Teen Challenge New England. In Brockton MA in 2005 food stamps were provided roughly $150 for each man per month in Brockton, Massachusetts. This food stamp support totaled nearly $200,000 a year. The USDA stated to Teen Challenge that "The basis for your denial was that your program is not licensed by the state of Massachusetts."

See more on Food Stamp Fraud on my blog:

http://medicalwhistleblower.blogspot.co ... lenge.html
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Re: Old News via John Hill former Attorney Generals Story
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 12:00:52 PM »
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Quote from: "MedicalWhistleblower"
...When the Attorney General of Texas told parents that he was going to shut the girls residence down, parents demanded the remainder of their money back from Roloff Homes  and their children returned to them.  The parents had signed contracts with Lester Roloff for their children's care and not all the payments had been paid.  Thus when the order came through from the Texas AG that he would not force the parents to pay what was still due on the contracts -  there was a show down. Lester Roloff claimed that these were legally binding contracts and he deserved to be paid the full amount even in the face of being shut down for child abuse by the Texas AG.   .....
As for the reason for Roloff's resistance to licensing and inspection -  this facility took girls who were pregnant or whose families thought they would become pregnant.  ...
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This information is not backed up nor is it accurate. It shows a glaring oversight of things that were going on. Parents were not contacted nor told by the Texas AG, nor did parents demand their kids, nor did Lester Roloff go around demanding money so called contracted to him by parents. Lester Roloff had PLENTY of other ways and methods to have his millions without needing to do that. A lot of girls in the Rebekah Girls home were there whose parents paid paltry sums of 50 dollars a month or none at all, a lot of Rebekah girls were dumped by their parents there and left there for years with no accounting for this abandonment. Some of the Rebekah girls came from very wealthy families whose parents paid far more than the charity cases. Roloff had his own methods of gaining his millions and a lot of it had to do with churches that supported him and a general public obtuseness in the Bible Belt whom thought if it looked good it must be good.

Most of the girls in the Rebekah Home did NOT have pregnancies, and they were abuse victims from their family of origins, having been molested and raped by male family members and then canned in the Home for being a prostitute, which  is a henious evil against their life and character, the idea that Roloff promoted that the girls were all witches or prostitutes shows a gross distortion of an extremist fundamentalist who did not know a thing about how to really help broken young ladies. One girl was raped by a male relative and impregnated by him and dumped off at Roloffs girls home and left for years. Most of the Girls were survivors of sexual crimes from family members and were dumped into this place and Roloffs statements against them were slanderous against their integrity to just survive in a world of abusive family members. Roloff painted all the girls as the most reprobate of the world, the ones no one else could help, the ones that were 'incorrigible'. Sorry, but Roloff was wrong, the girls were normal girls who had some very abusive family of origins, who needed counsel and were denied it, who needed to know that the abuse they had gone through in their family was a crime and evil, and instead were slandered across the nation by Roloff and Camerons and others, and who were indoctrinated with ideas that made them all out to be the bad guys, and the family of origins were the good pure white guys. Sorry, but this is evil. The biggest evil is that which masks itself as angels of light.

Roloff had good reason to keep them out of the girls and boys home. If child care workers who really cared for the reality the children were going through, got a chance to help these kids, the whistleblowing that would have occurred would have been great.  What went on behind closed doors and the closed doors behind those closed doors and the next level of closed doors behind that level of closed doors had come to light, many lives that are now dead might have been salvaged and saved and brought forward to  live a life of dignity and value.

My suggestion is for you or anyone to go and immerse yourself into the mind of Lester Roloff and learn how he saw things, and learn how he experienced himself to the world around him, and gain insight into his reasoning. Learning that, will show that Roloff would never have fought for some contractual monies parents supposedly signed, which I have never heard of before. Maybe they did it in the 80's under Camerons and Barretts, but when Lester was alive and in charge, i do not believe this happened.
The mentality of extremists fundamentalists is oxymoron in nature, they doublespeak and the meanings of words and ideas are not the meanings of those on the outside of the cult world.
They truly were extreme patriotic and at the same time truly, sincerely anti-government. Double speak in his language could be seen in his stance on Separation of Church and State and yet he credited himself as having won votes for Clements, by his ministry pulpit. Doublespeak.
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Re: Old News via John Hill former Attorney Generals Story
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 11:10:17 AM »
Isn't it interesting how many "anti-government" people have no problem taking food stamps from it not to mention other forms of government aid.
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