Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Against Their Will?
Anonymous:
About the kid who "chose to change his choices"---why would I find that more convincing coming from him---ten years *after* leaving the program.
I don't think any parent---even me----should have the right to involuntarily commit their child to a place where they cannot send and receive mail freely and go back home on vacations and are forced to participate in therapy----without a review by a financially and emotionally disinterested and *licensed* psychiatrist appointed by the State.
If you can't live with your kid, and he/she isn't immediately suicidal or violent, and he/she isn't being prosecuted by the authorities, he/she should have the option of foster care and outpatient treatment by a licensed professional, if a licensed professional agrees that he/she needs it, rather than involuntary commitment.
I don't know if your kid was in immediate danger of suicide or an immediate threat of violence, or was in the process of being prosecuted for some crime, but if not, I don't think you, or I, or any parent should have the power to involuntarily commit a child for lesser reasons.
And I believe the long term pattern of abuses by money-hungry quacks will eventually result in changes in legislation to implement that as the law of the land.
Anonymous:
"commit their child to a place where they cannot send and receive mail freely..."
When did that start? That's not a wwasps program. Hasn't it always been where they and the parents can get and receive mail 6 days a week, including faxes?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-12 18:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"About the kid who "chose to change his choices"---why would I find that more convincing coming from him---ten years *after* leaving the program.
I don't think any parent---even me----should have the right to involuntarily commit their child to a place where they cannot send and receive mail freely and go back home on vacations and are forced to participate in therapy----without a review by a financially and emotionally disinterested and *licensed* psychiatrist appointed by the State.
If you can't live with your kid, and he/she isn't immediately suicidal or violent, and he/she isn't being prosecuted by the authorities, he/she should have the option of foster care and outpatient treatment by a licensed professional, if a licensed professional agrees that he/she needs it, rather than involuntary commitment.
I don't know if your kid was in immediate danger of suicide or an immediate threat of violence, or was in the process of being prosecuted for some crime, but if not, I don't think you, or I, or any parent should have the power to involuntarily commit a child for lesser reasons.
And I believe the long term pattern of abuses by money-hungry quacks will eventually result in changes in legislation to implement that as the law of the land."
--- End quote ---
You "think" and you "believe" - Until you KNOW, you nor I could never understand.
Deborah:
Anon wrote:
Deborah - you have all the answers. Are you teaching Parenting 101?
Probably not ALL the answers, but I do value my opinion and enjoy sharing it. I'm doing the same thing you're doing- our opinions are obviously very different, and that appears to be the burr in your butt. You program people can't control what's said and read here. I imagine that is a source of frustration and what compels you to incessantly defend your choice, your program of choice, and your referal fees.
**What are those little ones you care for doing while you're on the computer all day?
All Day? That's the kind of desperate exaggeration that is so very typical of program people. Is that the best response you could muster? Because you are unable to think for yourself, I'll remind you that young children take naps- I'm not about sleep deprivation or BM.
**This board is saturated with accusations to steer parents away from real help.
"Real" help? If a parent is set on persuing the "help" offered by the industry, nothing I or anyone else says will change that. Having access to other's stories and opinions may cause some to think more carefully about their decisions, to do more research, to carefully read their contract. What's it to you if they choose something different? Do you have a vested interest in parents believing that your brand of "help" is the only option?
**You had separation anxiety in whatever program your son was in.
Separation anxiety? Excuse me while I laugh out loud. :lol: Is that how your program suggested and conditioned parents to think of the feelings they might experience after incarcerating their child? That's got to be one of the better ones I've heard.
Separation anxiety doesn't remotely describe how I felt when I received a call from a stranger who proceeded to dictate if and when I would have contact with my son. It doesn't remotely describe how I felt when I saw him for the first time after 4 months of isolation from the world.
The "treatment" my son endured and the surreal reality we lived with for almost two years was unacceptable. My reaction to it was exactly appropriate. Separation anxiety my ass.
What's up with you continually practicing your shade-tree analysis on me? What specifically got you going? Do you enjoy it? Do you have any clue how ignorant you came off when your only response to my post was to attack me personally with your wild imaginings.
I think you are the one with separation anxiety, anxious about being separated from your referal fees.
Deborah
Anonymous:
The U.S. Congress also has taken interest in the Utah-based WorldWide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP), the behavior-modification umbrella organization to which Dundee belonged.
House Representative George Miller of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Education Committee, last month asked the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to review WWASP's tax-exempt status and investigate whether the organization has received any special tax treatment in the past.
One of Rep. Miller's congressional aides said this week that the congressman also is preparing to ask U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft to open a federal criminal investigation into alleged child mistreatment at WWASP programs,
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