Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
The Only Instance of Abuse "Admittance" by Staff of MBA
enola:
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I wouldn't put too much weight on anything Whooter says. He lies a lot and has a financial stake in programs.
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He has no education or background in psychology and has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. he just tries to spin things to look "less bad" by providing false analogies, false testimony (posting as dozens of personas) and false "facts and figures" that were generated by marketing teams instead of clinicians. He's a phony and should not be listened to for any advice or opinion.
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Actually, I have been reading some--ok, actually way too many--of his posts, and I appreciate his comments. It only proves my opinion (along with many others) that these people, are sociopaths http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathic_personality_disorder , incapable of feeling remorse or guilt, from most of the staff who run these programs to the money-hungry corporations that control them. In fact, ASPEN is a branch from Mitt Romney's CRC Health (see http://http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091115/NEWS0107/911150428/-1/rss )
"CRC Health
In 2006, Aspen Education Group was purchased by the even larger CRC Health Group, an arm of the Mitt Romney-founded private investment firm Bain Capital Inc. Since the merger, though, CRC’s performance has been lackluster."
For anyone who claims to be a parent, or care about kids, to even consider posting some of the posts that this guy has, i.e. typing "lol" in a thread about a child's death-- http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29128&p=350434#p350434 and taking the focus away from the fact that a child died, one of many, in one of these programs, is disgusting. Like I said, it proves my point. Sociopath.
So let him post. Perhaps the moderators can come up with some kind of warning label attached to his posts, like WARNING: Posted By Industry Idiot!
Whooter:
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I wouldn't put too much weight on anything Whooter says. He lies a lot and has a financial stake in programs.
[...]
He has no education or background in psychology and has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. he just tries to spin things to look "less bad" by providing false analogies, false testimony (posting as dozens of personas) and false "facts and figures" that were generated by marketing teams instead of clinicians. He's a phony and should not be listened to for any advice or opinion.
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Actually, I have been reading some--ok, actually way too many--of his posts, and I appreciate his comments. It only proves my opinion (along with many others) that these people, are sociopaths http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathic_personality_disorder , incapable of feeling remorse or guilt, from most of the staff who run these programs to the money-hungry corporations that control them. In fact, ASPEN is a branch from Mitt Romney's CRC Health (see http://http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091115/NEWS0107/911150428/-1/rss )
"CRC Health
In 2006, Aspen Education Group was purchased by the even larger CRC Health Group, an arm of the Mitt Romney-founded private investment firm Bain Capital Inc. Since the merger, though, CRC’s performance has been lackluster."
For anyone who claims to be a parent, or care about kids, to even consider posting some of the posts that this guy has, i.e. typing "lol" in a thread about a child's death-- http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29128&p=350434#p350434 and taking the focus away from the fact that a child died, one of many, in one of these programs, is disgusting. Like I said, it proves my point. Sociopath.
So let him post. Perhaps the moderators can come up with some kind of warning label attached to his posts, like WARNING: Posted By Industry Idiot!
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Thank you Enola. There was a discussion awhile back where people here were adamant that Educational consultants couldn’t possible tell if a child had ODD or ADHD, or any disorder without first meeting the child and many here felt it was criminal that they place kids in programs based on such little information and knowledge of the child. But you have shown that this type of diagnostics is typical and accepted here on fornits.
...and on top of that you are suggesting that I be labelled somehow to warn people about what “you” have decide I am. I bet you would be the first one to cry a river if you had to wear a sign around your neck in a program reading “Sociopath” or “Whore” etc. . But this is your first order of business if you gained the power seat.
You seem to be no better than those you criticize in the program......Interesting isn’t it?
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Anonymous:
(Whooter has proved himself invalid)
C'mon back buddy. We know it's scary to you but believe it or not there are people that care about you getting well and feeling good about yourself.
If you can't commit to the whole program what can you commit to? 2... 3 posts? I know you can do that.
Anonymous:
We're right over here when you want to take a look at yourself Whooter.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29442&p=353043#p353043
RMA Survivor:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
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I wouldn't put too much weight on anything Whooter says. He lies a lot and has a financial stake in programs.
[...]
He has no education or background in psychology and has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. he just tries to spin things to look "less bad" by providing false analogies, false testimony (posting as dozens of personas) and false "facts and figures" that were generated by marketing teams instead of clinicians. He's a phony and should not be listened to for any advice or opinion.
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Actually, I have been reading some--ok, actually way too many--of his posts, and I appreciate his comments. It only proves my opinion (along with many others) that these people, are sociopaths http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathic_personality_disorder , incapable of feeling remorse or guilt, from most of the staff who run these programs to the money-hungry corporations that control them. In fact, ASPEN is a branch from Mitt Romney's CRC Health (see http://http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091115/NEWS0107/911150428/-1/rss )
"CRC Health
In 2006, Aspen Education Group was purchased by the even larger CRC Health Group, an arm of the Mitt Romney-founded private investment firm Bain Capital Inc. Since the merger, though, CRC’s performance has been lackluster."
For anyone who claims to be a parent, or care about kids, to even consider posting some of the posts that this guy has, i.e. typing "lol" in a thread about a child's death-- http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29128&p=350434#p350434 and taking the focus away from the fact that a child died, one of many, in one of these programs, is disgusting. Like I said, it proves my point. Sociopath.
So let him post. Perhaps the moderators can come up with some kind of warning label attached to his posts, like WARNING: Posted By Industry Idiot!
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Thank you Enola. There was a discussion awhile back where people here were adamant that Educational consultants couldn’t possible tell if a child had ODD or ADHD, or any disorder without first meeting the child and many here felt it was criminal that they place kids in programs based on such little information and knowledge of the child. But you have shown that this type of diagnostics is typical and accepted here on fornits.
...and on top of that you are suggesting that I be labelled somehow to warn people about what “you” have decide I am. I bet you would be the first one to cry a river if you had to wear a sign around your neck in a program reading “Sociopath” or “Whore” etc. . But this is your first order of business if you gained the power seat.
You seem to be no better than those you criticize in the program......Interesting isn’t it?
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I believe she has cried enough about having to wear such signs or be labeled as such in these abusive programs. That's why she is a survivor. Normally I would say you missed the point of the thread yet again. However, by calling her a whore again, I would say you really did stick with the thread for once. Somehow it just doesn't improve your image. I guess because you like the idea of making girls cry and calling them whores. No, not a guess... I am certain that is the reason why your image is so poor.
I think people want to label you because you are clearly of the sort of ilk that would find such activity acceptable. As therapeutic. But the followup comments showed that everyone sees you for what you are. An industry hack, with no sense of empathy for the pain of others. To you it is a joke. To us, you are a joke. You do validate our points. Every time you post, people new to this site see what the industry represents. What you represent. The abuse you and they sell as therapy. All of your posts are about supporting continued abuse, or covering up abuse, or as someone just said, basically portraying abuse as minimal, just a few bad apples, or whatever mindless drivel of an excuse you can give to deflect criticism on the industry you make a living from. And of course there is the worn out "Blame the teens!" You love that one, don't you?
Oh, and don't forget to suggest that Enola faked those Alex letters. That's another favorite of yours. Or maybe suggest she prove they are authentic? I'm really surprised you didn't demand proof. But as usual, you did draw a dumb parallel by using another thread, with no link, to bolster a petty argument suggesting that programs trying to diagnose behavioral disorders over the phone or internet is in the same league with people identifying you as a blithering idiot and industry hack. It don't take a rocket surgeon to size you up. But a child being placed in to therapy should receive the best diagnosis by a well trained professional in person, and in every instance. No exceptions!
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