Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
Whooter:
This may help:
STICC
FIRST PARAGRAPH:
SAVING TEENS In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization formed in April of 2004 to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---So lets see where we stand with our anonymous guest:
I challenged him to go through each item on his list... lets take a look:
Our anonymous guest said :Link
“you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.”
....... Fact: STICC was launched in April of 2004
....... Fact: My post places me in Chicago January of 2007.
Conclusion: Our anonymous guest was off by 3 years.
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Next our anonymous guest said: Link
I also have a little PM exchange between you and me (using the login "Concerned Parent"). I wrote you a PM asking for info on ASR and you wrote me back to contact you privately at your email address:
PM Between TheWho and Concerned Parent from 2007 wrote:
Re: Is ASR a good program?
Sent: Fri Jun 06, 2007 1:07 pm
From: TheWho
To: Concerned Parent
Personally I think ASR is a good program. It worked for our family. My kid was there
when Dave Marcus wrote his book based on the kids in the program and they got back on
track and matured. I have been to the campus many times and think if it's a good fit
for your son that you shouldn't worry about it. Don't trust what you read on this site
because the members here are all anti-program and have an agenda to discredit all
programs. If you want to contact me outside fornits I can help you get in contact with
someone who can help you make the right decision. You can email me at
onekidatatime@yahoo.com. Good luck and I hope it all works out for you.
Going to deny this as well? I never called you out on it before, but I held onto it just in case you wanted to deny later that you said it.
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We all asked that the PM be authenticated, Psy offered to do the work. But our anonymous guest declined. I wonder why?
Can anyone guess why they wouldn’t want the PM authorized?
--- End quote ---
It would only make sense that the PM was made up. Why else would he run away from having it authenticated?
Troll Control:
What have you ever had "authenticated"? Nothing. You can solve the "mystery" yourself, but it's interesting to see you avoid it. Let's authenticate your personal information first, and maybe the poster of that missive will agree to do the same. That seems fair to me. I'm sure she'll do it, but you first. Lead by example and stop being a hypocrite.
Anyway, that's only a small piece of the puzzle. Let's also authenticate your ties to the troubled teen industry. Please tell the readers why you claim to be just a "regular" parent, but you go to TTI meetings 1200 miles from your home to discuss where the money's at in the TTI. We're all ears.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---This may help:
STICC
FIRST PARAGRAPH:
SAVING TEENS In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization formed in April of 2004 to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues.
--- End quote ---
Great, but it has nothing to do with this thread. Nowhere, ever, is the formation of STICC even mentioned. Seems like you're just posting random information. Nobody asked for it or mentioned it, but you seem to be trying to deflect from the questions.
Why did you travel 1200 miles from your home to host a TTI meeting and inform your TTI colleagues "where the real money is, the TBS industry"? I'm sure you can see there's a huge disconnect between your actual behavior and your statement that you're just a "regular parent." I think you weren't telling the truth. Care to clear it up for us? Or should we all just believe you're a liar, because they can't both be true.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Oh, boy. This quote probably goes further than any in the entire "indictment" of TheWho. This one is a zinger. You know how TheWho is always saying he "has no ties to the industry" or He's "just a regular parent"? Well, he he is admitting otherwise:
--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---
--- Quote from: ""RobertBruce"" ---Oh no no no Cindy, you claimed there was a "long debate" and that it was decided that "we" were only going to look at TBS's as you define them.
Who specifically is "we"?
--- End quote ---
The debate was long, Bob... many wanted to start with "Wilderness data" and I argued that the real money was in the TBS industry, so lets start there, although wilderness is usually the inital phase of any decent TBS. So we went round and round....you, Bob have been a key player in collecting and presenting data on the entire industry and I have been focusing on small segments at a time.
I dont want to put names out there, people want to be anon's.
--- End quote ---
Whooter is evidently an expert on "where the money's at" in the Troubled Teen Industry. Why would he try to pass himself off as something other than an industry guy? That's not honest at all.
--- End quote ---
Whooter, please explain your direct quote above so that readers can understand your role in the troubled teen industry. Who was at this meeting you attended? Why would a "regular parent" go to a meeting like this? How did you determine where "there real money is" and why?
Forgive me if I seem repetitive, but your assertion that you have no ties to the TTI and your statement above are mutually exclusive and require your explanation.
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