Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
Dysfunction Junction:
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--- Quote from: "funny study" --- ... a sampling bias could have potentially have had a large
impact on the results of this study, the excuses I heard not to participate had to do with
behavioral breakdowns as often as they had to do with too many after school
commitments and other measures of success ...
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So basically out of 190 families scheduled to graduate, only 125 families graduated (65 did not). So right there, there are 65 failures. Out of those 125 who graduated, 25 could not be contacted. That leaves us with 25 unknown, 65 failures. Out of the 100 left, only 30 responded. Those 30 reported well due to sampling bias. That leaves 30 successes, 25 unknown, 65 failures. Out of the 70 remaining, half were still having "issues". The other half I'll give you generously as "successes". That leaves 65 successes (only 30 of which responded to a survey), 25 unknown, and 100 failures. (out of 190 scheduled to graduate). Hardly stellar, even if the numbers are accurate.
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Great breakdown.
Whooter:
The study DJ is talking about can be found here:
Outcome Study
Seems everyone is talking about it.
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Dysfunction Junction:
I believe repetitive posting of a website URL advertising ASPEN is a violatoin of the "anti-Spam" rules here. Everyone saw it the first time it was posted. It's still there. Repeating the posting isn't adding to the conversation. Several serious ASPEN criticisms were levelled and we should discuss those rather than Spam this thread.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---I believe repetitive posting of a website URL advertising ASPEN is a violatoin of the "anti-Spam" rules here. Everyone saw it the first time it was posted. It's still there. Repeating the posting isn't adding to the conversation. Several serious ASPEN criticisms were levelled and we should discuss those rather than Spam this thread.
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There are several studies, DJ. If you are going to refer to a study in your post I think it should be made clear to the readers which one you are referring to in each case. Is this the long term study or the short term study you are talking about?
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Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "funny study" --- ... a sampling bias could have potentially have had a large
impact on the results of this study, the excuses I heard not to participate had to do with
behavioral breakdowns as often as they had to do with too many after school
commitments and other measures of success ...
--- End quote ---
So basically out of 190 families scheduled to graduate, only 125 families graduated (65 did not). So right there, there are 65 failures. Out of those 125 who graduated, 25 could not be contacted. That leaves us with 25 unknown, 65 failures. Out of the 100 left, only 30 responded. Those 30 reported well due to sampling bias. That leaves 30 successes, 25 unknown, 65 failures. Out of the 70 remaining, half were still having "issues". The other half I'll give you generously as "successes". That leaves 65 successes (only 30 of which responded to a survey), 25 unknown, and 100 failures. (out of 190 scheduled to graduate). Hardly stellar, even if the numbers are accurate.
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Great breakdown.
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