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Aspen Education Group deceptively markets short term invalid
Whooter:
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I hate to inform you that Deborah from Fornits (Plano, Texas) wrote that letter (use to be an admin here.. would change facts in peoples posts to meet her immediate needs) remember her... go back to your source and scroll down to the bottom of the letter... sorry buddy... ask psy or Ginger is you doubt who it is.... now who is the dumb one?
Okay like I said any link that isnt related to fornits or cafety? Something preferably from Aspen... But even if there was one (just for shits and giggles) that would not damage the results. All testing is done preferably by people who have experience within the industry they are testing... so I still done see the problem.
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Wow, Bruce got smoked on that one. Didnt think anyone knew she wrote that? Shame on you RB.
Anonymous:
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http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5285.shtml
About the Author:
Ellen Behrens, PhD is a Licensed Psychologist and owner of Canyon Research and Consulting, a company that provides consulting and training services to mental health treatment programs and providers. She has extensive experience working in residential programs as a clinical director, psychological evaluator, therapist, researcher and consultant.
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Why would her study be applicable to Aspen at all? Aspen does not provide mental health treatment in their programs.
Hey roob, we went beyond Fornits. We went to Struggling Teens.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Still not even one link outside fornits or cafety?
Does anyone really think that someone with no back ground in residential treatment, no understanding of what is involved or what the kids go through on a daily basis, What type of kids are there and the type of environment. You think this person would be qualified to design and implement a clinical study to show effectiveness on a place he/she has no experience in.. what questions to ask etc.
Or another question… who would be more qualified to interview a kid who just left a program…. Someone with no experience or link to the industry (like you would like) or someone from fornits? Who would ask the most appropriate questions?.
see my point?
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Actually an independent study would be best done by a group totally independent of the mental health field. It's merely collecting data; Behrens company sells its services to programs - how can you not expect her to not back them?
Anonymous:
So, here's more about the connections to Aspen Education group to the "survey" they funded(repeated for John D reuben, who seems to have missed them the first tims)
--- Quote from: "SUWS wilderness program of the Carolinas abduction, torture and forced march group" --- Research conducted by KEITH RUSSELL, PH.D.,
OUTDOOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE RESEARCH COOPERATIVE
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The people doing the study are the former director (possibly still the director) of aspen's youth care, and Keith Russel in coordination with outdoor behavioral healthcare research cooperative. Look who founded and runs the organization
Keith Russel was founded by Aspen, according to their own words:
http://www.obhic.com/about/index.html
--- Quote from: "Outdoor behavioral healthcare research cooperative propaganda machine for the legitimization of thought reform" ---The Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Industry Council (OBHIC) was founded in 1997 when representatives from a handful of wilderness treatment programs joined to collaborate and to share best practices. The founding programs realized the advantage of uniting to promote program standards and excellence and thus OBHIC was founded.
Today, the organization and its member programs have been instrumental in raising the bar for wilderness treatment, facilitating research on the efficacy of wilderness treatment for adolescents, and in promoting the industry.
OBHIC FOUNDING MEMBER PROGRAMS:
• Anasazi Foundation
• Aspen Education Group
• Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy Programs
• RedCliff Ascent
• SUWS
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http://www.aspenacademy.com/events.html
--- Quote from: "keith c Russell" corrupt torture propagandist" --- Keith C. Russell, Ph.D.
Director Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Research Cooperative (OBHRC)
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RMA Survivor:
Precisely! Anyone who has actually worked with this industry would automatically disqualify themselves for an independent study. Any competent research group, using standard methods, would be able to independently conduct a proper study if they were worth their salt to begin with. It is not entirely unreasonable to consult with people in the industry when conducting research, but to have those who are in the industry conducting the research would be unreasonable.
This has historically been a huge problem in science. Scientists who have a vested interest or desire for a certain outcome, finding exactly what they were looking for. That is why independent peer-reviewed appraisals are so important.
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