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Aspen Education Group lawyers..AEG not mental health program
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Unbelievable. I am generally a 'pro-program' person here and I had actually been telling people I thought that Aspen programs were 'some of the best'. Boy, I am sorry to see that they came out with this information about not providing treatment. I never would have believed it until their own lawyers said it in court. I doubt they would perjure themselves and ruin Aspen's reputation. That wouldn't make sense for their own attorneys to do. Man, this blows me away that Aspen has been lying to all of us for so many years. It's really quite sad.
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This parent seems much more reasonable than TheWho, the guy who keeps saying Aspen is wonderful even though they just admitted they provide no treatment during the trial phase of a lawsuit, under oath. She seems upset to find out she was cheated and her trust and advocacy were misplaced; that she was fleeced and her child denied the services needed to make them healthy. This seems like it would be a normal reaction.
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Unbelievable. I am generally a 'pro-program' person here and I had actually been telling people I thought that Aspen programs were 'some of the best'. Boy, I am sorry to see that they came out with this information about not providing treatment. I never would have believed it until their own lawyers said it in court. I doubt they would perjure themselves and ruin Aspen's reputation. That wouldn't make sense for their own attorneys to do. Man, this blows me away that Aspen has been lying to all of us for so many years. It's really quite sad.
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This parent seems much more reasonable than TheWho, the guy who keeps saying Aspen is wonderful even though they just admitted they provide no treatment during the trial phase of a lawsuit, under oath. She seems upset to find out she was cheated and her trust and advocacy were misplaced; that she was fleeced and her child denied the services needed to make them healthy. This seems like it would be a normal reaction.
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Well money is a big motivator. She wanted her money back, so sure she was pissed. Plus she found out her son is a pervert and its all over the web. How would you feel?
The rest of us can enjoy the benefits of Aspens 99% success rate while the other 1% get all the attention and sound bites.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "RMA Survivor" ---They do very good at claiming 99% success and getting you to believe such hype. But being gullible is not a crime even if you are guilty of it.
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As long as the check clears and the kid turns out okay.... everything else is gravy!!!
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The kid is now in prison based on what his "treatment team" reported to the police. Maybe he's out by now.
What would be interesting to get is Aspen's expert testifying that it did not supply a mental health or drug abuse treatment program, that AEG is not covered by HIPPA because it does not provide any sort of treatment, and that it never promised to.
Ursus, are you interested in filing an FIA demand?
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "RMA Survivor" ---They do very good at claiming 99% success and getting you to believe such hype. But being gullible is not a crime even if you are guilty of it.
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As long as the check clears and the kid turns out okay.... everything else is gravy!!!
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The kid is now in prison based on what his "treatment team" reported to the police. Maybe he's out by now.
What would be interesting to get is Aspen's expert testifying that it did not supply a mental health or drug abuse treatment program, that AEG is not covered by HIPPA because it does not provide any sort of treatment, and that it never promised to.
Ursus, are you interested in filing an FIA demand?
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At the trial all parties agreed that Aspen Education group provided a licensed therapist for Matthew Pence during his stay at NorthStar.
The parties seem to agree that ...... one member of Matthew Pence's "treatment team" was a licenced therapist.
What was Matthews lawyer thinking going to trial? They got killed on this one.
If Matthew had just followed the rules and didnt run around breaking into offices at night he would have had the opportunity to get the help he needed. Instead he ended up in jail.
I guess when they say "dead insane or in Jail" they have a reason behind it. I just feel bad for everyone involved.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "John Reuben" ---
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--- Quote from: "RMA Survivor" ---They do very good at claiming 99% success and getting you to believe such hype. But being gullible is not a crime even if you are guilty of it.
--- End quote ---
As long as the check clears and the kid turns out okay.... everything else is gravy!!!
--- End quote ---
The kid is now in prison based on what his "treatment team" reported to the police. Maybe he's out by now.
What would be interesting to get is Aspen's expert testifying that it did not supply a mental health or drug abuse treatment program, that AEG is not covered by HIPPA because it does not provide any sort of treatment, and that it never promised to.
Ursus, are you interested in filing an FIA demand?
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At the trial all parties agreed that Aspen Education group provided a licensed therapist for Matthew Pence during his stay at NorthStar.
The parties seem to agree that ...... one member of Matthew Pence's "treatment team" was a licenced therapist.
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No. All parties agree there was a licensed therapist at Northstar but that the "therapist" Pence saw, "Trudy Godat," was unlicensed.
--- Quote from: "Pence v aspen education Group-- who killed Mathew Reuben" ---Plaintiffs complain that Matthew Pence was seen by an unlicensed therapist, Trudy Godat, when Matthew's depression significantly worsened, his personal psychiatrist was not contacted, an appointment with a different psychiatrist was scheduled at a future date, Matthew did not receive supervision and a safe environment, Matthew was instead allowed to roam the premises and gain access to the roof, offices and computers, Matthew's confessions were turned over to police, and Matthew was expelled, arrested and indicted.
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Aspen's successful defense was that since it was not a treatment program for mental or drug abuse disorders, and never promised to conform to any medical standard for a treatment center, it was not liable.
Aspen was also successful in arguing that Hardess was not under the supervision of a licensed therapist, was not medical personnel, though "director" of Pences "treatment," and was thusly free to turn Pence’s confessions over to the police.
You’re purposely obtuse. Perhaps if you respected the seriousness of this issue, you wouldn't have killed your son.
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