Author Topic: John Reuben killed Michael w Academy & Swift River, SUWS (Read 3928 times)

Anonymous · « **on:** September 15, 2009, 10:15:00 PM »

John David Reuben destroyed his son by financing his imprisonment and torture at the gulags, Academy at Swift River, and SUWS wilderness programs, gulags of Aspen Education Group, a division of CRC Health Group. He is alleged to be fornits troll, "thewho"

The world should know of the slime that is John David Reuben, his alleged antics on this forum, and his murder of his son. I think this topic, and related ones, should become the top results for google searches of “John David Reuben,” “Max Reuben,” “Michael Reuben,” “academy at Swift River” and “SUWs Wilderness programs.” Let’s make that happen.

Quote from: "Guest"

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs. He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today. Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into. Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death. John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike. Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally. :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:29:11 PM »

What if you're wrong about his identity? He'd be laughing it up at your expense, if that's the case. If you are right about his identity, why does he (if thewho even is a he) continue to post?

Anonymous · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:32:16 PM »

Does anyone on this website have any proof John David Reuben destroyed his son?

Anonymous · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2009, 10:00:05 AM »

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Does anyone on this website have any proof John David Reuben destroyed his son?

There is nobody that can provide proof because many members of this website make false accusations. I would not count on anyone providing proof.

Anonymous · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2009, 10:42:15 AM »

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Does anyone on this website have any proof John David Reuben destroyed his son?

There is nobody that can provide proof because many members of this website make false accusations. I would not count on anyone providing proof.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/boston ... =117741877
Michael Joshua Reuben 22 Academy at Swift River
Yore a fan of proof, huh? Ya think proof should be acquired b4 "accusations" are made on a website? How bout Aspen Education Group proves their supposed "therapies" which include obviously abusive, violent acts, like kidnap, forced imprisonment, denial of communication are helpful before forcing them on people? How bout proving a person needs residential treatment of any sort before holding them prisoner against their will and forcing it on them? Not so big on proofs in that direction, eh?

Anonymous · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:04:12 AM »

You did not provide proof that Michael Joshua Reuben was killed by any program. Was a staff member convicted in a court of law?

Anonymous · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:13:58 AM »

Quote from: "aspen education group tortures and kills kids"

Quote from: "because"
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Does anyone on this website have any proof John David Reuben destroyed his son?

There is nobody that can provide proof because many members of this website make false accusations. I would not count on anyone providing proof.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/boston ... =117741877
Michael Joshua Reuben 22 Academy at Swift River
Yore a fan of proof, huh? Ya think proof should be acquired b4 "accusations" are made on a website? How bout Aspen Education Group proves their supposed "therapies" which include obviously abusive, violent acts, like kidnap, forced imprisonment, denial of communication are helpful before forcing them on people? How bout proving a person needs residential treatment of any sort before holding them prisoner against their will and forcing it on them? Not so big on proofs in that direction, eh?

I'm waiting for your proof that Aspen Education Group does anything but destroys people-- that HAS been proved, scientifically and legally.

Has Academy at Swift River and SUWS wilderness programs been convicted for killMichael Reuben? No. For that to happen, you'd need a real, real dedicated, caring parent to peruse the manner, to press charges. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgUpPU2M_Pk
And that aint John David Reuben.

And even with a dedicated parent, and say, i dont know, a beating death on film, the state will stall and prevaricate, for reasons that appear to be political in nature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgUpPU2M_Pk
Maybe brother Max can look into pressing charges. But criminal proof in a court of law isn't the only way a person can be reasonably judged to have destroyed/ murdered another. Its fair to say Hitler murdered Anne Frank though he was never convicted of her murder, either.

Whooter · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2009, 01:00:31 PM »

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You did not provide proof that Michael Joshua Reuben was killed by any program. Was a staff member convicted in a court of law?

no, the program wasnt responsible for any deaths. There are many posters here who have a difficult time dealing with the fact that programs help a great number of kids and families. So to fight back they need to resort to lies and half truths to tilt the scales in their favor.

For the most part they are harmless.

Anonymous · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2009, 01:14:10 PM »

REUBEN, Michael Joshua Age 22, of Sudbury, MA. Beloved son of John D. Reuben. Brother of Max H. Reuben. Musician, artist and sales executive. We will miss our child and the young man he became. Addiction was the illness that took him, but never the essence of who he was. Also survived by his loving grandmother, and numerous dear aunts, uncles, cousins and friends, including the Abreu and Reuben/Glanzman families of Somerville and the Frias family of Hudson. Donations may be made in his memory to: Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative, a non-profit organization founded by John Reuben to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues. http://www.savingteens.org <http://www.savingteens.org/> P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144

Addiction killed Michael Joshua Reuben not ASR or SUWS.

Anonymous · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2009, 01:23:43 PM »

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no, the program wasnt responsible for any deaths. There are many posters here who have a difficult time dealing with the fact that programs help a great number of kids and families. So to fight back they need to resort to lies and half truths to tilt the scales in their favor.

:tup:

Anonymous · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:37:50 PM »

"Aspen Education Group Continues to Provide
Unflagging Support

Aspen Education Group has placed a “Saving Teens ~ Donate Now” button on their Alumni Website, and has also made a very generous donation to STICC in the names of 80 individuals as thanks for their participation in an Aspen survey to improve services. STICC thanks everyone Aspen Education Group for their enthusiasm, collaborative spirit and support of the Saving Teens methodology and mission."

A reward for the wound of being outed for harassing survivors of torture all these years on fornits?

Aspen Education Group needs to be taken out, its leaders imprisoned. We did it to WWSP let's do it do Aspen Education Group

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=210

Anonymous · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2009, 09:26:26 AM »

STICC = Sticking Teens In Concentration Camps.

Bye-bye. :suicide:

Anonymous · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2009, 06:59:01 PM »

Ha. This topic is at the top of the second page if you google "John David Reuben."

Anonymous · « **Reply #13 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:39:26 PM »

Quote from: "addiction"

Addiction killed Michael Joshua Reuben not ASR or SUWS.

He Deadinsaneorinjail-ed himself.

Anonymous · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:59:07 PM »

:bump:

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