Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
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Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I'm afraid that really is game, set and match. Too bad it still won't stop him from spewing out his bullshit.
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He can spew BS all he wants. It's in vain now.
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I profit from the industry.
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Yes, we know. You admitted it before, remember???
Whooter admits starting a program referral business while responding to the name “John.”
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--- Quote from: "John D. Reuben" ---"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."
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John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem. Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem? Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place? Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?
John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"? I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."
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This marketing spin makes me nauseous. We're talking about HUMAN BEINGS here, John. I know the conscienceless, like yourself, see children as commodities, but this is WAY out of line. You disgust me, sir.
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Of course you are nauseous. That is because you are weak and lack foresight like most people. See the problem is you miss the bigger picture. You think small and think problems can be solved by hugging people. People and kids dont need hugs they need solutions, they need to know someone is in control and can make them feel safe. Most parents jump in and try to save their child by getting involved in their lives. But the truth is it is too late at this point to save them by this approach because they have traveled too far down the path. The parents should have been more involved all along. So instead of taking the road everyone else was taking another option was to start a business around the problem. This way you not only get help for your child but you find you are able to raise money for other kids to be placed and after the smoke settles 2 things occur:
1. It doesn’t cost a dime for treatment and
2. You can actually reverse the flow and have a few coins end up back in your pocket to boot.
You need to always keep a level head and look for opportunity when others are panicking. This is key and is the Hallmark of successful people. Whenever something is going terribly bad try to think about how you can profit by it and turn it around into something good. I have always been a firm believer that there exists a silver lining in every situation. It is our jobs to find it and utilize it or someone else will.
As far as trying to find something scientifically proven, that is hogwash. By the time any good set of studies are completed the treatment is outdated and people have moved on to something more "leading edge". Hell they still cant figure out how bees fly but that doesnt prevent us from enjoying the honey.
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Why would you deny what you already admitted? It makes no sense.
Game, set, match.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I'm afraid that really is game, set and match. Too bad it still won't stop him from spewing out his bullshit.
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I know, Anne, we can feel sorry for him but its all he has left. He can only troll now. I vote to let him continue until he gets exhausted. But in all fairness to the other readers we should not encourage him to derail the threads in the main forum.
Lets move this to the many threads in the "free for all section".
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Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I'm afraid that really is game, set and match. Too bad it still won't stop him from spewing out his bullshit.
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I know, Anne, we can feel sorry for him but its all he has left. He can only troll now. I vote to let him continue until he gets exhausted. But in all fairness to the other readers we should not encourage him to derail the threads in the main forum.
Lets move this to the many threads in the "free for all section".
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Gee, you wonder why we call you out on spinning so much. ::)
Troll Control:
Yes, Whooter calls quoting his posts that prove he is a liar (about everything) "trolling" yet when he is actually trolling and impersonating some 50 individuals and lying about having a daughter he calls it "helping" and "creating balance."
Too bad Whooter doesn't like his own quotes, but if he didn't want his lies to be public he should not have lied in the first place. Oh well.
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I'm afraid that really is game, set and match. Too bad it still won't stop him from spewing out his bullshit.
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I know, Anne, we can feel sorry for him but its all he has left. He can only troll now. I vote to let him continue until he gets exhausted. But in all fairness to the other readers we should not encourage him to derail the threads in the main forum.
Lets move this to the many threads in the "free for all section".
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Gee, you wonder why we call you out on spinning so much. ::)
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Why do you encourage all the trolling from DJ/ Control Troll? why not ask him to take it to the free for all section. He may listen to you.
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