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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---and I have known people long enough to know that when you get that defensive when I called you out that I have hit a nerve and was right to assume you have been lying about your stories and accounts your write here.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself.


--- Quote ---Why do you get so upset at others when they fib when you are lying yourself?

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Could you please provide proof of his/her lying?  We've provided the proof of you lying.  It's only fair.

Troll Control:
He's just lashing out because he's been cornered and caught in some huge lies which he had to confess because there was no other plausible out for him.  Too bad for him.  He shouldn't have been fabricating all that information here for the last five or six years and it wouldn't have caught up to him and ruined his half-decade troll of Fornits.  But now it's just too late.  He got caught and he admitted it.  Game, set, match.  Done.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---and I have known people long enough to know that when you get that defensive when I called you out that I have hit a nerve and was right to assume you have been lying about your stories and accounts your write here.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself.


--- Quote ---Why do you get so upset at others when they fib when you are lying yourself?

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Could you please provide proof of his/her lying?  We've provided the proof of you lying.  It's only fair.
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The same way she thinks she knows that I profit from the industry.



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Troll Control:
Credibility...DEACTIVATED...Credibility...DEACTIVATED...Credibility...DEACTIVATED

Too late for all that lame denial stuff, Whootie.  You're caught.  You have confessed to lying about having a daughter and the following information proves you are in a STICCy situation:

Whooter has told on himself.


--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---
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--- Quote from: "A friend of Max" ---
when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.
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Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?
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3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.
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Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

Here's more of WHooter's detailed, unpublished information regarding Mike Reuben:


--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---Prior to ASR  the father had Mike seen by a specialist in the field of addiction and he was referred to a Counselor who worked one on one with him.  As his grades continued to slip and his relationship with drugs became stronger he was recommended to ASR by The Director of Pediatrics at Children’s Hospital in Boston.
ASR was able to arrest his behavior, teach him to cope with himself and the problems that life will and has thrown at him and set him on a healthy path.  He graduated ASR, attended and graduated from college and continued his interest in Music and a made himself successful in a career in Sales.  He continued to struggle throughout his life with his addiction until it finally took his life.
As we all know addiction isn’t something that is cured but is a lifetime challenge and each person attempts to hold it at bay the best he can.  The road can be long and arduous and in many instances the road is short as it was for Mike.
Please be respectful of this boys life and struggles and don’t twist his story to make him a tool for your agenda.
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How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Hmmmm.....  Getting more interesting as we go...

Funny.  I think most people know and have used the word "junkie" before.  I had never seen it spelled "junky" (when referring to a "junkie") before until today.


--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---If you tie a junky to his bed for a couple of days to get him past the physical addiction is it considered cruel? If he comes thru it and says “Thank you man you saved my life, I owe you big time, my friend” is that worth it to both of you? Should you go to jail for restraining someone? Kidnapping? Torture?
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That word appears nowhere else on this forum except that post.  But, it does appear elsewhere on the 'net...


--- Quote from: "John Reuben" ---Live Music Junky
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...on John Reuben's MySpace page.

Also from John Reuben's MySpace page (from 2007, before Mike died, but after his wife, Lena, died):

--- Quote from: "John Reuben" ---John's Blurbs
About me:
I am 48, father of two older boys, runner, and live music lover. My tastes range mostly from blues to classic rock, to alternative. Recent shows: Everclear Peter Yorn Chicago Steely Dan Widespread Panic Eric Clapton Allman Brothers Sarah Borges Entrain Jeff Pitchell I see about 30-40 shows a year.  
Who I'd like to meet:
Hoping to meet someone I can share some time with and in particular, see sdome music with this summer.  

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"Who" else on Fornits is a "Live Music Junky" that always talks about how many shows he sees?

I also noticed that he didn't say he is a "widower," he says he is "divorced."  Pretty creepy considering that other posters here who went to HLA with Max said that Max "blamed his father for his mother's death."


--- Quote from: "John Reuben" ---Children: I don't want kids
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Yeah, no shit.  I think we knew that already.


--- Quote from: "John Reuben" ---Hometown: Philadelphia
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"Who" else on Fornits is from Philly...?


--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I spent so much time sleeping in the streets around the spectrum in Philadelphia waiting for the ticket offices to open up that the homeless and I started to recognize and nod to each other. Ticket-tron was just getting started and they were only given a limited number of tickets to sell, so the only guarantee was the ticket office. Besides many other things I was a concert junkie.

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--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---I wont tell you my year of birth. But the concert was in the winter 1973, December I think, and it was at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. It was the Quadrophenia tour.
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--- Quote from: "John Reuben statement" ---He does it "to get something positive out of this tragedy and let people know this happens in fortunate and unfortunate families, in Malden, Somerville, Sudbury and Los Angeles," he said.

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Malden, eh?  I wonder "Who" else has posted from Malden here on Fornits...?


--- Quote from: "Psy" ---24.41.10.XXX [ 1197 Posts ] [ Look up IP address ]
Users posting from this IP address
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24.41.82.XXX [ 1616 Posts ] [ Look up IP address ]
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--- Quote from: "IP Locator" ---IP Address   Country   Region   City   Latitude/Longitude   ZIP Code   Time Zone
    24.41.10.XXX  UNITED STATES   MASSACHUSETTS   MALDEN   42.4305-71.0574   02148 -05:00
   Net Speed   ISP   Domain
DSL   EARTHLINK INC   EARTHLINK.NET

   IDD Code   Area Code   Weather Station
1   781   USMA0228 - MALDEN
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Then we have Whooter posting from IP address (thanks for giving Psy permission to post these IP's Whooter.  It has been a big help to me!) 24.41.82.XXX.

And where does our handy little IP Locator put this IP address?  "Swampscott, MA."

Who might Whooter know in Swampscott, I wonder...?

Catherine Reuben!

Just "coincidences" I suppose...?

Whooter, or John, whichever you prefer, you are the biggest fucking phony liar I have ever had the displeasure to become acquainted with.

Boy, I guess that MCSE and research PhD did come in handy after all...

It has been fun, douche, but the game is over.  You've been outed for all eternity.

Anne Bonney:
I'm afraid that really is game, set and match.  Too bad it still won't stop him from spewing out his bullshit.

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