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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "WorriedAnne" ---I know that this site is very much against all programs of any kind, but I just wanted to post our own success story (for the moment at least !).

Our son, aged 15, was out of control, constantly angry and depressed, not eating to the point of anorexia, failing school and using pot and alcohol to such a point that he couldn't function.

On the recommendation of an educational consultant (long story), we sent him to Second Nature in Utah, where he spent nine weeks.  Last week I went to the campsite and spent the day and a night with the group, and then left with my son the next day, to take him to his "aftercare" as they call it.

And our son was absolutely transformed.  He said it saved his life.  He is happy, calm, funny, and gained nearly 20 pounds while he was in the program.  He's proud that he can do that fire thing with the bow, that he survived tough hikes, and that he can cook over a fire.  He is really a totally changed young man, and he said without Second Nature he couldn't have done it.

I found the staff to be good, but the therapist in charge of our son was exceptional, absolutely outstanding.  Very understanding and still pointing out the sensitive issues in a way that we could all make some changes in communication so we don't all blow up all the time, as we've been doing for the past year.

So I thought I'd post something incredibly positive.  I am thrilled to have my son back, in good shape, physically and mentally, and I was extremely impressed with the care of the boys, both physical and emotional.  I know this program doesn't work with all boys, but it worked with our son.
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The Who ^^. It posted within minutes of it's post here
by Guest ยป Yesterday, 11:42
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27219&start=105

It has also claimed to be an AARC insider providing positive info it, and the poster Robert Bruce.
It is thought to be this kid killer:
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Reuben_J ... 46382.aspx
John David Reuben, Chairman/ Founder of Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC), Sudbury, MA, 877-249-1336, announced the proceeds

It killed it's son by torturing him at Academy at Swift River and SUWS Wilderness Programs. His son O.D'd  after being driven half-mad and to despair at these private extra-judicial gulags. Academy at Swift River and SUWS Wilderness Programshas caused the death of  many detainees. John David's son, Michael Joshua Reuben , was just one of them. Jd killed his son and he wants more victims
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903

JD call the one son you didn't kill.

Anonymous:
I like how the "guest" instantly knows who my son is.  
And I like the balanced dialogue, and the civilized tone of voice.
I don't care if my son is gay or straight, I just hope he is more polite and balanced than most people who post on this site.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---I just hope he is more polite and balanced than most people who post on this site.
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He is more polite and mentally stable than people on this website.  People on this website are idiots!

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "polite guest" ---I like how the "guest" instantly knows who my son is.  
And I like the balanced dialogue, and the civilized tone of voice.
I don't care if my son is gay or straight, I just hope he is more polite and balanced than most people who post on this site.
--- End quote ---

Thanks worriedAnnie,  I appreciate the time you took to post something positive.  Your story is an oasis here and typical of most parents experience from 2nd nature, its just that many dont post here or find their way to this wayward site.
I wish you and your son all the happiness you deserve and need to catch up on.

psy:
A while back I interviewed and ex second nature employee. She gave me an earful.  She told me about, for example, how the staff had a rulebook they were supposed to follow but were given oral orders frequently that contradicted those rules (resulting in sub-par treatment of the kids).  Other than that I don't remember the specifics (it was a long time ago), but I do remember her overall review of the place was not positive.  I believe she's posted on this site as well in another Second Nature thread.

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