Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Second Nature Wilderness Program
psy:
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Second Nature Wilderness Camp in Duchesne, UT (additional locations in Santa Clara, UT, Clayton, GA, and Bend, OR) is suspected of being an abusive behavior modification program. They consider Oppositional Defiance Disorder an actual disorder when in reality it is not.
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Techincally, it's in the DSM so it is. The question is whether an educational consultant or a parent can apply that diagnosis. ODD in the DSM is very clearly distinguished between it and normal teenage rebellion.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---^^^ thewho.
Second Nature Wilderness Camp in Duchesne, UT (additional locations in Santa Clara, UT, Clayton, GA, and Bend, OR) is suspected of being an abusive behavior modification program. They consider Oppositional Defiance Disorder an actual disorder when in reality it is not.
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Techincally, it's in the DSM so it is. The question is whether an educational consultant or a parent can apply that diagnosis. ODD in the DSM is very clearly distinguished between it and normal teenage rebellion.
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No it's not. My BF was diagnosed with it by a real psychiatrist. Oppositional defiant is defined by opposing authority "often." How does that distinguish it between "normal" teen rebellion and abnormal? What the hell is "normal" teen rebellion, anyway? Who are these motherfuckers to decide what a "normal" rate of defiance is and medicalize any opposition that occurs at a greater rate? What if the authority in question is abusive or dysfunctional? Should the teen not oppose that authority at a greater rate than normal? Whatever their claims to the contrary, kids ARE inappropriately diagnosed and destroyed through it. There need to be some major class action lawsuits against the APA for this atrocity.
Anonymous:
Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.
psy:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---There need to be some major class action lawsuits against the APA for this atrocity.
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Or against the individual Psychologists for malpractice. Sue enough of them and they'll stop diagnosing kids as it on their own.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "john David Reuben" ---Thanks worriedAnnie, I appreciate the time you took to post something positive. Your story is an oasis here and typical of most parents experience from 2nd nature, its just that many dont post here or find their way to this wayward site.
I wish you and your son all the happiness you deserve and need to catch up on.
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Actually, it's been more or less proved by peer reviewed study, that it's common for participants in "teen programs" to encounter human rights violations, and abuses of all kinds.
http://www.cafety.org/research/121-rese ... -pinto-phd
"I have spoken with professionals who are shocked by descriptions of institutional abuse that continue to emerge in unregulated “therapeutic” boarding schools and similar “specialty” programs across the country. In disbelief, people often ask, “How do you know that these aren’t just a few isolated incidents that have been blown way out of proportion?”
...these survey findings nonetheless provide compelling information indicating that there are far more than a few isolated cases of youth who are being mistreated and are suffering in programs across the country. ..these reports describe treatment that appears to be significantly below commonly accepted standards of care in the fields of education, mental health, child welfare, and human rights. "
Meanwhile, Aspen education group has never authenticated or confirmed in accordance with any medical body's standards and practices that it offers any form of therapy whatsoever.
"Instead of treatment, however, Burton says [Aspen Education Group] cuts [teens] off from the world and put in a place where teenagers are "incarcerated against their will and without their consent for dubious treatment of a clandestine, undefined and unconfirmed nature."
If you weren't too stupid to have seen that, yo uwouldnt have killed Mike Reuben
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